IC40 or IC60 for 18,500 gallon pool? (Only about $100 different)

[Jimrahbe]

Raw,

You never what the SWCG to have power when the pump is not running. Under the right conditions, the cell could explode.

The primary safety feature is to remove the power to the cell's power supply when the pump is off. This is what the timer would do..

The cell itself has a flow switch that prevents the cell from working without water flowing, but that switch can only be used as the backup safety device..

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[kchinger]

What kind of pump do you have? I don't know that you said. Filling out your signature would help, the more experienced folks might see something obvious that could be an issue with equipment.

Also, how many hours a day do you currently run your pump?

 

[mknauss]

A SWCG must have a primary disconnect from power when there is no water flowing through it. That would be timer or automation.

The unit also has a secondary disconnect called a flow switch. You never want to rely only on the flow switch. If the SWCG is energized without water flowing through it gases can accumulate and the unit can explode.

Take care.

Sorry for stepping on Jim. My system must not have updated in time!!

Take care.

 

[Jimrahbe]

What kind of pump do you have? I don't know that you said. Filling out your signature would help, the more experienced folks might see something obvious that could be an issue with equipment.

Also, how many hours a day do you currently run your pump?

The original poster, Rawb, is buying an IntelliFlo Variable Speed pump and a SWCG. With a VS pump, you do not turn the power on/off. The pump gets constant AC power and has an internal controller that tells the pump when to run and at what speed. This is why the rest of us posters are talking about needing a timer for the SWCG's power supply, so that you can ensure the cell is never on when the pump is not running.

This is not an issue with a single speed pump, as you would simply connect the pump and the cell to the same timer.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[rawb]

Have you priced out an EasyTouch 4 relay panel, single body of water, with integrated IC power supply? I believe several of the online retailers run a bundle where you get the automation, SWG and valve controllers as a package. It probably works out close to what youÂ’d pay for then individually.

The EasyTouch relays can also be used to control things like landscape lighting or other chemical control components like an IntelliPH acid dosing system. I agree the initial upfront and installation costs are high, but itÂ’s A LOT better than walking out to your equipment pad and throwing switches and valves manually.

Joyful,

Is this what you are referring to?

Pentair Easy Touch 4PSC-IC40 W/ Salt Cell - 520593 - INYOPools.com

 

[JoyfulNoise]

Joyful,

Is this what you are referring to?

Pentair Easy Touch 4PSC-IC40 W/ Salt Cell - 520593 - INYOPools.com

Yes. You’d want to review its options to make sure it fits your needs. The built in power supply can power either an IC40 or 60 so you could start off with an IC40 and then eventually move up to a 60. You’d have to call INYO Pool to see if the bundle a 4 relay system with a 60 as they may only do that for an 8 relay system.

Honestly, I’d get 8 relay system because no one ever says, “Darn it, I wish I had a smaller pool with fewer relays in my automation panel!”

 

[kchinger]

The original poster, Rawb, is buying an IntelliFlo Variable Speed pump and a SWCG. With a VS pump, you do not turn the power on/off. The pump gets constant AC power and has an internal controller that tells the pump when to run and at what speed. This is why the rest of us posters are talking about need a timer for the SWCG's power supply, so that you can ensure the cell is never on when the pump is not running.

This is not an issue with a single speed pump, as you would simply connect the pump and the cell to the same timer.

Thanks,

Jim R.

Thanks, didn't see that in this thread and didn't know the back story.

 

[patrick3229]

Hi rawb,

If your pump is wired 230V then you will need this Intermatic 230V Pool Pump Timer and if your pump is wired 115V then you will need this Intermatic 115V Pool Pump Timer

Here are a few Installation Guides you may find helpful during your project.

How to Install an Intermatic 230V T104 Pool Timer
How to Install an Intermatic 115V T101 Pool Timer

 

[Philo]

Hi rawb,

If your pump is wired 230V then you will need this Intermatic 230V Pool Pump Timer and if your pump is wired 115V then you will need this Intermatic 115V Pool Pump Timer

Here are a few Installation Guides you may find helpful during your project.

How to Install an Intermatic 230V T104 Pool Timer
How to Install an Intermatic 115V T101 Pool Timer

 

[Jimrahbe]

Hi rawb,

If your pump is wired 230V then you will need this Intermatic 230V Pool Pump Timer and if your pump is wired 115V then you will need this Intermatic 115V Pool Pump Timer

Here are a few Installation Guides you may find helpful during your project.

How to Install an Intermatic 230V T104 Pool Timer
How to Install an Intermatic 115V T101 Pool Timer

Patrick,

Well, not to be picky, but all he needs is a timer that operates on whatever power his SWCG system needs. He is not going to use the timer to control his pump, just the salt system.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[B-rad-TV]

I think rawb may have a good point about automation, how many times will I need to tweek my pump run times and change the swg run time.
im not going to have any special water features or jets that need constant reprogramming .
I expect to find the correct balance of the timers after a few try's and then maybe tweek the times a few times a year? Here in Florida it's warm 8-9 months a year and then I assume cut back on run times 3-4 months a year.

I spoke with a Pentair rep today who thinks all the automation stuff makes more sense for those who travel often. He said if your not traveling a lot then it's just a cool toy?
Itsdefinitely a lot of $$ for the basic pool