High CYA

kl23

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May 21, 2024
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New Jersey
Pool Size
28000
Surface
Vinyl
Chlorine
Liquid Chlorine
Hi,

First post. Relatively new here - found the site a few weeks ago as this is the first summer I'm managing my pool. Been reading through Pool School and many of the older threads... what a great resource. I'm finding myself in a bit of a quandary and curious how others would proceed.

Some background - I purchased a house with a pool last year. Hired a company to maintain it last summer. This summer, I've decided to do it myself. Ordered a TF-Pro after seeing it recommended here, arrived a few days ago. Love the kit.

The pool is ~28,000 gallons, inground, vinyl, 20x40ish grecian shape. 1 skimmer and main drain. Hayward sand filter. Off-line Hayward chlorine feeder. No heater or SWG. Location is NJ.

My pool company used 3in Trichlor tablets in the chlorine feeder last year, and filled it up again this year when they opened the pool ~3 weeks ago. After doing research the past few weeks, I've learned about the CYA/Free Chlorine relationship and the fact that I should have a minimum of 7.5% FC to CYA. I've also learned about how the tabs have stabilizer which raises CYA. Sure enough, when I tested my CYA levels, they were off the charts.

Here's the current results from my test today:
FC around 6ppm
pH 7.5
TA 125
CH 325
CYA ~180-200 (rough estimate... had to dilute the sample to test given the high levels). Pool store had it at 166 last week.

I assume the best course of action is to switch to liquid chlorine and replace water to reduce CYA. I'd love to drain and replace, but the problem is that I'm on a well, and my outdoor spigot is unfiltered well water. I don't know the levels but I assume the quality of the raw well water is poor given that we have a pretty intense filtration system inside the house (sediment filter, softener, arsenic removal, R/O for drinking, etc.).

The pool has been clear since opened ~3 weeks ago. It's holding chlorine (I've only had my test kit for a few days but seems to be losing 1ppm chlorine / day... although I still have the chlorine feeder with tabs running at a low setting, which I will be turning off).

Any recommendations on best course of action? Seems like my options are:
1. Raise FC levels significantly (~20ppm?) and ride out the high CYA until I start having issues with water clarity and/or algae. I assume it would be expensive to keep FC levels this high, and nearly impossible to shock/SLAM/superchlorinate if an issue does arise? Are there other concerns (health, pool liner or other equipment, etc.) with high FC levels?
2. Drain significant water (75%?) and replace with well water from my outdoor spigot. Seems dicey as I assume the well water will bring other issues - metals, hardness, etc. I understand that it's risky to drain a vinyl-lined pool too much, and I'd also have to be careful not to burn out my well pump or run it dry. I've read that there are filters you can attach to a garden hose, but reviews seem iffy on whether they are effective - anyone have experience with these? Or with filling a pool with well water? I drained and replaced about 6 inches last week, and my copper went from 0 to 0.3ppm (both from pool store testing)… didn't do a dent in my CYA. Hardness went up from 145 to 325 (although 145 was from pool store and 325 from my TFPro, so who knows).
3. Truck in new water. I assume this will be expensive, so trying to avoid. If I go this route, would they have to partially drain and refill a few times so the water level doesn't get too low and potentially shift or cause issues to the liner?

I guess another option would be to do what my pool company did last year (and probably what my local pool store would tell me) - ignore the high CYA, shock the pool weekly, keep FC around 4, and hope I don't have algae or other issues. I know this isn't the correct way to maintain it, and it won't be sanitized correctly, but I can't help but think this is how most (less research-inclined) people would go about it. Ignorance is bliss?

Curious how other members here would handle this situation. Thanks in advance for your input. This forum has been a great resource for me already, and I'm looking forward to learning more throughout the summer.
 
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If it were my pool, I would truck in water. The cost of chlorine trying to maintain a sanitized pool with a CYA in the 200 range will be very high. The trucked in water will pay for itself.

In the very short term, we're expected to get some significant rain this week. You could take advantage of that. If 2" are forecast, drain 2" and let Mother Nature fill it back up. You won't get to where you need to be, but it may reduce the number of truck loads you need.
 
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Thanks for the feedback. Planning to call around and get some quotes for water replacement via truck. Did read the drain article and noted via no less than 1ft in the shallow end.

Interesting twist, got my well water tested at the pool store today and they gave me these numbers:

pH 7.6
Hardness 460ppm
Alkalinity 72ppm
Cynaric Acid 5ppm
Copper 0ppm
Iron 0ppm
Phosphate 0pm

Based on this, am I okay filling the pool with my well?
Are there other things the water should be tested for before I fill the pool with it?
 
Since you’re on a well you should find out the capabilities so you don’t overwhelm it.
It may require you to do multiple drain & refill sessions which will use more water over all but it is what it is. That is also some hard water. If you have the ability you may try using a mix of your softened water - but you must also be mindful of its limitations.
Trucking water in is the most ideal although I understand it’s not the most budget friendly option.
Whatever you end up doing I certainly wouldn’t aim for the pool store recommended 4ppm fc & hope for the best. Please Maintain fc above minimum for your cya at all times. Clear water doesn’t automatically = sanitary water.
 
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It may be worth it to find a private water testing company for your well water. Your local health department may have references. In some areas of the country, they even do it for you.
Then you know what you are actually dealing with. As noted, never trust the pool store.

But yes, given the other limitations - trucking it in would be by far the best solution (other than rain!)
Lugging jugs is the best current solution - ditch the tabs. Study up on a Salt Water Chlorine Generator for the future. That is the ultimate solution.
 
Thanks all for the replies. Appreciate everyone's advice.

Plan is to get some quotes for trucking. Also going to get the well water tested by a more reputable source.

For now, I’ve switched to jugs and will keep the FC high. Longterm plan is definitely SWG.
 
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