Fiberglass pool under construction near San Antonio TX

radefeld said:
So did the guy in the excavator have a special made seat in the cab to accommodate his extra large testicular girth? Seriously though, how in the world did you stomach watching them bring that through the space - much less take photos! it looks great in the space, a perfect fit for your space! Keep the photos coming - it looks like you're going to have a great looking oasis!

You mentioned you may be going overbudget, does cutting the crane out of the bill help? :)

Not having the crane was a blessing in disguise in two ways. 1) Chandler, the lead builder on the install, got to show off his skills for the whole neighborhood (and yes I was so nervous I was about to ask the neighbor lady who was watching with a glass of wine if I could have a swig) 2) Because we didn't have the expense of the crane, they are working with me on absorbing some other costs.
 
jjgainer said:
Not having the crane was a blessing in disguise in two ways. 1) Chandler, the lead builder on the install, got to show off his skills for the whole neighborhood (and yes I was so nervous I was about to ask the neighbor lady who was watching with a glass of wine if I could have a swig) 2) Because we didn't have the expense of the crane, they are working with me on absorbing some other costs.

I love that the entire neighborhood came for the show ;-) thankfully it was a good display of when things go as planned! Glad the installer is working with you on the other costs, sounds like you have a good guy there.
 
radefeld said:
jjgainer said:
Not having the crane was a blessing in disguise in two ways. 1) Chandler, the lead builder on the install, got to show off his skills for the whole neighborhood (and yes I was so nervous I was about to ask the neighbor lady who was watching with a glass of wine if I could have a swig) 2) Because we didn't have the expense of the crane, they are working with me on absorbing some other costs.

I love that the entire neighborhood came for the show ;-) thankfully it was a good display of when things go as planned! Glad the installer is working with you on the other costs, sounds like you have a good guy there.

I am very happy with the builder so far. They really seem to know what they are doing. We are going back and forth over some of the details of the decking. I have some very particular tastes and they are working with me so I am hopeful that it will turn out well.
 
Here are the latest pictures. They got a lot done on Monday... so much so that now work is suspended pending some decking decisions.

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Perfect fit! Looks good in the yard. In the same situation as you with my builder, have been very happy and even called him at 6 last night because I changed my mind on the decking and within 20 minutes he was at my house with a can of spray paint to make changes.
 
Well, we finally had some activity on the pool yesterday after about a week of inactivity. The bond beam was poured and the electricians came out and hooked up the electrical for the pump. Here are some pics of the pool:

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In case anyone is interested, the primary reason that construction has slowed down is that we have run into some issues with the pool design and with the availability of materials that needed to get resolved before we moved forward. I have a STRONG personal preference to have some sort of bullnose coping around the pool. I just like the look of it aesthetically and I think a rounded smooth edge is less likely to scrape someone or snag bathing suits. Our pool builder works very closely with Belgard so all of the decking options that we were offered were Belgard products. Unfortunately, Belgard did not have a solution for a bullnose coping stone.... or so we thought. After spending a marathon 4 hour session at the pool builder's office on last Friday where we reviewed different travertine options for bullnose coping as well as reviewed various other decking options from Belgard, I spent the weekend trying to settle on a decision between what seemed to be sub optimal choices. I could disregard the need for bullnose coping and therefore cave on one of the features that I wanted most. I could go all travertine for the coping and decking and retaining wall, but although I love the look of travertine, it seemed a little high end for my back yard. I could combine the travertine coping with the Belgard pavers, but my pool builder really didn't like the look of combining natural and man made stone. I spent quite a bit of time researching precast concrete coping which was a somewhat expensive option, but which had the potential to solve the problem and while trying to find examples of precast concrete coping up against Belgard pavers, I actually stumbled across a web site where I saw something that shocked me. There was a pool company on the east coast offering the very thing that I had wanted from the beginning... bullnose coping from Belgard. I did some research and found out that Belgard actually DID have bullnose coping, but they just didn't offer it in Texas for some reason. I notified my pool builder of this option and they immediately went to work on trying to get samples of the material and to arrange to get access to it for my project. They had in fact also been asking for this very thing for quite a while, but had never been made aware that it existed. I am at this point in time waiting to hear back from my pool builder on when they can have the material in as a sample and when they can get enough in to continue my pool build.

Here are my materials of choice:

Belgard Aqua-Styl coping:
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Belgard Mega-Arbel pavers:
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Belgard Bel-Air retaining wall:
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On top of the issues mentioned above, there was another issue that needed to be sorted out. The latest design called for a retaining wall that butted up against my composite wood deck. Originally in the first design, the retaining wall was supposed to retain a relatively small strip of grass in front of the deck, but due to some changes in the pool placement that were necessary to adhere to various set backs, the original design had to be changed and the strip of grass became so compressed that we just decided to get rid of it altogether and make that entire area decking... hence, the need to put the retaining wall up against the composite deck. There was always something aesthetically about this design that bugged me and eventually I realized that I didn't like the look of a retaining wall that didn't really appear to retain anything. Normally, a retaining wall has soil on one side of it that is visible where there is either grass or a planter or something like that, but my retaining wall wasn't like that. On the other side of the wall from the pool decking was a wall of composite deck skirting. It just kind of looked weird to me. On top of that, the composite deck skirting itself was degrading. It had actually been replaced in one section where I moved the stairs to make room for the pool, but in other areas it was faded and flaking. This was a manufacturers problem with the material, but unfortunately Evergrain would not replace it, because the warranty transfer period (5 years) from the previous owner had expired.

Here is what the composite deck looks like right now:

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You can see the soil beneath the deck that needs to be retained. One thing I should point out at this point is that originally, we wanted to put the retaining wall in between the deck and the pool instead of in between the pool and the back fence so that we could keep the elevation of the pool as low as possible. Because my backyard has a grade, we didn't want the pool elevated, because then we would always be looking from the pool deck level right into my neighbors back yard.

So, in order to kill two birds with one stone, I hatched the idea of replacing the composite deck skirting with entirely new skirting that would stretch all the way to the level of the pavers. I was informed that although this would work, we would STILL need some sort of retaining wall and my pool builder said that one option was to chip away the excess concrete from the footers that sticks out beyond the current skirting and to pour a concrete retaining wall that would sit behind the skirting that would tie all of the existing footers together. Then, we could replace the skirting with longer skirting that would stretch down to the surface of the pavers and we would have a nice clean look where the skirting meets the pavers with no visible retaining wall.

That is the latest design idea and I am waiting for an updated 3D model that depicts it. As soon as I get it, I will post it here for all to see. So, all of these changes are why my project has been delayed, however, it looks like we have everything sorted out design wise and are now just waiting for material availability in order get back on track with finishing this project.
 
I'm VERY interested in this post since I am currently talking to leisure pools in new braunfels about potentially using them and getting their new "Reflection" pool. I talked to a guy named Chris who came out to my property. Please keep up the updates! I know they just changed management/ownership of that location, very curious to see how your job goes.
 

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jarrette said:
I'm VERY interested in this post since I am currently talking to leisure pools in new braunfels about potentially using them and getting their new "Reflection" pool. I talked to a guy named Chris who came out to my property. Please keep up the updates! I know they just changed management/ownership of that location, very curious to see how your job goes.

Hi Jarrette,

That is one of the reasons I am posting this. It was so hard for me to get good information on what the process is really like with a particular builder that I wanted to go ahead and document it with whoever I chose. Chris seems like a really good guy and I have enjoyed working with him, however, we have had a few snags as documented above. The work is supposed to start on the retaining wall any day now and also, Chris has agreed to have his crew install the new composite skirting as long as I can get a hold of the materials.

One of the guys from Leisure came by a couple of days ago and cleaned the pool and got the pump running so it is looking sparkling now:

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Also, today I got the updated pool design that takes into account the new colors and materials:

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The samples of the materials are supposed to arrive either Friday or Tuesday and once we can see them, we will give the final approval to continue with building the pool deck. One potential snag though is that we still don't know when Belgard will be able to provide the Aqua-Styl bullnose coping. I have been told that they were going to ship a truckload in two different colors from Florida since it isn't manufactured at the Texas facility, but its not clear to me when that is going to happen. I had put a clause in my contract to guarantee that the pool build would be done in 30 days, but the change in materials has thrown a wrench into that. One mistake that I made was to sign a contract knowing that the materials in the contract were not what I really wanted since I had my heart set on the bullnose coping. I think Leisure SHOULD have known that Belgard makes that coping even if not in Texas and that this option should have been made available from the beginning. However, at this point, that is all water under the bridge and hopefully Belgard can provide the materials so that my pool build can continue.
 
30 Day Update

Hi All, today is officially day 30 of my pool build. I had hoped that the pool build would be done in 2 weeks and actually had it written into the contract that it must be completed by day 30, but here we are still with some work to do. I have to hand it to Leisure, they have done just about everything that they could do at this point including some extra items that they have helped me out with, but I am still disappointed that it is proving so difficult to get the materials from Belgard that we need to finish off my pool deck. Hopefully the samples will arrive this week and we will be able to finalize the order and move forward. I was warned that holding out for something that is non standard would delay the process and indeed, that is proving to be true.

The good news is that there was some work done yesterday to prepare my composite deck. I had mentioned in an earlier post that we were going to build a retaining wall that would be hidden by the skirting from the deck and to do that, we needed to pour concrete BEHIND the existing skirting. That process was completed yesterday and here is what it looks like now:

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I purchased the new composite deck skirting on Monday so once the pool patio is completed, Leisure will install those for me to complete the look.
 
I know you wanted it done in 30 days but I think you will be pleased by holding out and waiting for what you really wanted. It's going to look amazing! Be patient! :cool:
 
They are really rocking and rolling on the install. There were a few issues to resolve today and technical difficulties and a slight change of plan due to the fact that "The map is not the territory", but I am thrilled with the way things are proceeding:

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Here is a little more progress. They should finish the pool deck on Monday and then a crew will be in to replace the siding on the composite deck and do the remaining cleanup. I'm hoping they will be completely finished next week so that I can bring in someone to fix the irrigation system and replace the grass. Here is the latest:

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They are done with the pavers! I think it looks great. I am really impressed with the job that Dane and his team did. Next, Jake from Leisure will be back to finish some remaining items and cleanup over the next few days. Here is the latest:

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The cleanup is proceeding nicely. They have spread sandy loam soil down in all of the areas that need it. There should be more cleanup today and hopefully, the concrete guys will be in to fix the sidewalk. I also have an irrigation specialist coming in today and my landscaper coming in tomorrow.

Here are some pics:

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