I apologize in advance for my first and excessively long post!
We are on nearly an acre in Gilbert, Arizona. We lived in the area a long time ago, and I maintained a pool way back then. When we retired, we moved back to Arizona and intentionally bought a house without a pool, intending to retreat to a cooler climate in the worst of the summer heat. Things have changed such that we expect to be here most summers, and to entice our grandkids to spend more time with us, we're going to bribe them with a pool.
As many of you have found, pool builders seem to be backlogged. We've been able to get one quote, working on a second. Mostly what I've learned from that quote and from this forum is how much things have changed over the last two or three decades! So many choices, and of course the costs are substantially higher now.
I'd like to keep our overall spend below $50,000 (and $40,000 would be much better!). I have a pretty strong technical background. In industrial applications I'm comfortable with electrical work (although I'll need to brush up on code compliance), plumbing, pumps, valves, etc. I can read prints and create basic CAD drawings. I'm less confident with concrete/rebar and I'm overwhelmed with the dizzying array of equipment and visual choices that go into designing a modern pool. Despite my ignorance, I'm considering going the owner build route. I do not expect to actually do any of the work, aside from running the power from our 200 amp service entrance to the pool equipment (located on the far side of the house, of course).
I just built a 600 square foot ramada with an outdoor kitchen, and the pool would be immediately adjacent to the ramada. This will provide shade for spectators. We're not looking for an elaborate luxury resort pool, but we do want it to enhance the space. Something as small as 16' x 26' would probably be adequate, and would tuck in nicely. The expected use would be for my wife and I to relax throughout the summer in the late afternoon/evening hours, and to help keep several active kids (oldest now 12) busy a couple of weeks each year. Our initial proposal was for a freeform pool, and I think we favor that style, but we're not locked into it.
I'm reading the posts and informational articles on TFP in an effort to make sense of the incredible variety of options. In narrowing down our design, it would be helpful to have a sense for the relative costs of water features, baja shelves, spas, benches, and related choices. For example, if I knew that adding a water feature would add $4000 to the overall cost, that would be a deciding factor. How can I efficiently go about making these decisions? What tools have you used to work through the design process? I am aware of at least two local businesses that provide owner-builders with a design package and limited support (at a significant cost). Is this the best option, or is it likely that can I do that work on my own?
Regarding the power requirement, the one pool builder that quoted says he recommends 100 amps. I assume this would be needed if we ever decided to put in a heat pump (no natural gas in our area). I doubt we will, but I'm okay with the added cost as I don't want to do it twice.
I expect to utilize a SWCG. I don't anticipate a lot of automated features, but I'd still go with an Intellicenter. Probably no separate spa, but a comfortable seating area with jets would be very nice (again, I have no concept of the added cost of a spa).
I'm a sponge at this point, and welcome your candid feedback. Thank you!
Paul
We are on nearly an acre in Gilbert, Arizona. We lived in the area a long time ago, and I maintained a pool way back then. When we retired, we moved back to Arizona and intentionally bought a house without a pool, intending to retreat to a cooler climate in the worst of the summer heat. Things have changed such that we expect to be here most summers, and to entice our grandkids to spend more time with us, we're going to bribe them with a pool.
As many of you have found, pool builders seem to be backlogged. We've been able to get one quote, working on a second. Mostly what I've learned from that quote and from this forum is how much things have changed over the last two or three decades! So many choices, and of course the costs are substantially higher now.
I'd like to keep our overall spend below $50,000 (and $40,000 would be much better!). I have a pretty strong technical background. In industrial applications I'm comfortable with electrical work (although I'll need to brush up on code compliance), plumbing, pumps, valves, etc. I can read prints and create basic CAD drawings. I'm less confident with concrete/rebar and I'm overwhelmed with the dizzying array of equipment and visual choices that go into designing a modern pool. Despite my ignorance, I'm considering going the owner build route. I do not expect to actually do any of the work, aside from running the power from our 200 amp service entrance to the pool equipment (located on the far side of the house, of course).
I just built a 600 square foot ramada with an outdoor kitchen, and the pool would be immediately adjacent to the ramada. This will provide shade for spectators. We're not looking for an elaborate luxury resort pool, but we do want it to enhance the space. Something as small as 16' x 26' would probably be adequate, and would tuck in nicely. The expected use would be for my wife and I to relax throughout the summer in the late afternoon/evening hours, and to help keep several active kids (oldest now 12) busy a couple of weeks each year. Our initial proposal was for a freeform pool, and I think we favor that style, but we're not locked into it.
I'm reading the posts and informational articles on TFP in an effort to make sense of the incredible variety of options. In narrowing down our design, it would be helpful to have a sense for the relative costs of water features, baja shelves, spas, benches, and related choices. For example, if I knew that adding a water feature would add $4000 to the overall cost, that would be a deciding factor. How can I efficiently go about making these decisions? What tools have you used to work through the design process? I am aware of at least two local businesses that provide owner-builders with a design package and limited support (at a significant cost). Is this the best option, or is it likely that can I do that work on my own?
Regarding the power requirement, the one pool builder that quoted says he recommends 100 amps. I assume this would be needed if we ever decided to put in a heat pump (no natural gas in our area). I doubt we will, but I'm okay with the added cost as I don't want to do it twice.
I expect to utilize a SWCG. I don't anticipate a lot of automated features, but I'd still go with an Intellicenter. Probably no separate spa, but a comfortable seating area with jets would be very nice (again, I have no concept of the added cost of a spa).
I'm a sponge at this point, and welcome your candid feedback. Thank you!
Paul