EasyTouch electrical setup and relay usage questions

A_kraker99

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Jul 18, 2015
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Zeeland MI
Electrical is getting wired up on Monday for or new pool and I am curious how many relays are going to be used up and some other wiring questions. Below is what I will have initially.

- EasyTouch 4 cabinet with ScreenLogic2
- Intelliflo pump
- 1 Pentair GloBrite light (Seperate transformer?)
- Pentair 522473 chlorine tank (See question below about this)
- Future Gas Heater

My questions...
1. Which devices above will use up a relay? I know the intelliflo has a communication cable the plugs in but does it also need to be hooked into Relay 1 which is labeled as pump? Or can that be repurposed?
2. The GloBrite came with a transformer and Intellibrite. I assume I will not need the Intellibrite controller but will I need the transformer or is there one built into the EasyTouch?
3. Can I use the chlorine tank as is without intellichem? My intention was to just have it run a fixed amount of time per day like a lot of you do with the stenner pumps.
 

Jimrahbe

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Your are correct that the Pump/Filter relay is not used if you have an IntelliFlo pump.. but, it cannot be repurposed.. It is on any time the pump is being told to run and you are in the Pool or Spa mode.

Your light will use one relay..

I would use the Pump/Filter relay to power the chlorine feeder, since you do not want it to run unless the pump is running.

Heaters are generally controlled by a small low voltage relay on the main board.. (Not one of the "4" high voltage relays. The heater's AC power would not pass through any relays..

As far as using just the tank and pump, I can't see why it can't be used, but that would depend on what electrical power the pump uses..

Thanks,

Jim R.
 

A_kraker99

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Thanks Jim, using the pump relay for the chlorine pump sounds like a good idea but I don’t want it to run 100% of the time the pump is running. Wonder if I can program that? Maybe like 45 minutes a day depending on how fast it pumps.
I believe the pumps are 24v Based in some research. I’m hoping it is easy to wire in some kind of 24v adapter. Maybe I should just give in and get intellichlor SWG.
The light still needs to run through the separate 12v transformer right?
 

Jimrahbe

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Yes, the 120 volts is controlled by the relay and the output of the relay still has to go through a step-down transformer before going to the light.

You will have to use one of the aux relays to control the actual "on" time for the chlorine feeder.. I would use the pump/filter relay to ensure that the pump is running and then run through and aux relay to control the on time.. Basically the two relays would be in series, so both would have to be closed to get the feeder to run.

Assuming that the motor runs off of 24 VAC, you just need a 120 VAC to 24 VAC step down transformer. It would be nice to know the amount of current the motor uses before buying one.

Jim R.
 

A_kraker99

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Okay. I don’t know the voltage or amperage of the chlorine pump for sure. Maybe someone else can confirm this. It’s not stamped on the pump.
So running through the pump relay is just to make sure it doesn’t run while the pump isn’t? So I could just use only the AUX relay and make sure I only run it when the pump runs? That way I can save that relay for something else in the future that might only run with the pump?
This is all very helpful. Anything else I could pass on To the electrician specific to my setup?
 

Jimrahbe

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You could do that, but keep in mind that the Pump/Filter relay is controlled by the EasyTouch, so you can't just make it come on when you want.. Where you can control the Aux relays to make them turn on when you want.. "Saving" the Pump/Fitler relay does not do you any good as it can't be used for much else..

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Jim R.
 

A_kraker99

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Okay so here is what I learned and some new questions.
There are 4 relays but they just plug into little black connectors that allow you to move them around. The electrician moved the 4 over and left the pump connector empty. This seems to work since I can press the audio buttons and hear each relay click.

Anyways. To my new question. Does the Easytouch already have a built in 24v transformer I can use to power the chlorine pump? I see the 3 amp low
Voltage breakers in the top right.
 

ajw22

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Anyways. To my new question. Does the Easytouch already have a built in 24v transformer I can use to power the chlorine pump? I see the 3 amp low
Voltage breakers in the top right.
Look in the Load Center and see what transformers you have. There should be a 24V that powers any actuators.
 

A_kraker99

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I will check, but it looks like a 24v transformer is standard for the valve actuators? Could I just use a valve actuator output to turn on the chlorine pump? I am not running any actuated valves currently.
 

ajw22

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I will check, but it looks like a 24v transformer is standard for the valve actuators? Could I just use a valve actuator output to turn on the chlorine pump? I am not running any actuated valves currently.
I think you woudl need to run the 24V through one of the aux relays.
 

A_kraker99

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Okay. How are the actuators controlled then? I figured the relays just turned 24v on and off.
On second look. The actuators are 24VAC I might need DC for the pump. Guess I will have to do some more investigation.
 

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An ET 4 only has the ability to control the Pump/Fitller relay, plus the Aux 1, 2 and 3 relays.. You can plug a relay into Aux 4, thru 7, but they won't work.. I can't remember now, they might work when you push a button, but they can't be scheduled or used in any other way...

The relays are turned on and off by 24 VDC.. The valves are moved by 24 VAC.. The "system" transformer generates the AC voltages needed for this. I would not try to use them for anything else. When you have an IntelliChlor (SWCG), the ET has a very large internal transformer that is used to power the salt cell and, as it turns out, run the ipH motor.

The circuit breaker for the IntelliChlor transformer is 12 amps and the measured output on my ET is 32 VAC...

Thanks,

Jim R.