Dolphin Premier

acaciolo

LifeTime Supporter
Apr 15, 2008
75
Northest PA - Lehigh Valley
the premier is a private label model only available from 1 supplier. it is very similar to the pentair 830.

make sure you check out the dolphin supreme m4 also. top load cartridge filter and an extra high speed briush. cost should be about the same.
 

larryfl1

Member
Jun 4, 2012
20
i just ordered a m5 ....

how is that compared to all the other dolphin series? its very confusing in looking at the different models and private labeling...

is the m5 the best of the best residential???
 

acaciolo

LifeTime Supporter
Apr 15, 2008
75
Northest PA - Lehigh Valley
in my testing....I would say that the M5 truly is the best of the best. the 3rd higher speed brush, top loading cartridge filter and the split drive motors on the m5 make it the best. I am using the M4's for my customers...and this was after extensive testing of other dolphin models, smartpool nitros, and some other private labeled maytronic units.
 

larryfl1

Member
Jun 4, 2012
20
awesome..thats great to hear......in reading and seeing so many models i was getting nervous...

would you say the cartridge cleaning is way easier then the bags???

how would you compare it to the aquabot viva and such??

thanks again for the advice
 

acaciolo

LifeTime Supporter
Apr 15, 2008
75
Northest PA - Lehigh Valley
the cartridge is really easy to hose off and taking it out the top makes it even easier. No comparison to the old bags.

The aquabot viva (european made) was a great unit back when I had one about 6 years ago. Rock solid.

But, the trend is going towards units that can be repaired easily for not a ton of money. The aquabot viva still uses the very expensive motors, etc...and isn't too easy to work on.

In the past 2 weeks, I've had 5 different cleaners at my pool to test out for my customers. I've also had some of my employees test them out.

without exception, the ones with the cartridges were the most favored. The m5 was killer, but a little too expensive for me to give to all of my customers as standard...and also more than most need.

The pentair 830 was really nice too. It had all the features of the M4 except for the 3rd brush and the top load cartridge. The 830 also came with a remote as standard the it was optional on the m4. But for the extra money, I thought the m4 was worth it.

the weekly/daily timer feature is a huge it.

any other questions, feel free to contact me.
 

jblizzle

Mod Squad
TFP Expert
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May 19, 2010
43,238
Tucson, AZ
I have never seen the top load filters but I have to wonder, when you pull the cartridge out doesn't a lot of the dirt and gunk fall off the cartridge and stay in the robot?

When you pull the robot out of the water, does dirty water drain out of the bottom? ... #1 gripe with my dolphin, have to pull it out upside-down, but it sure cleans well.

Posted with Tapatalk ... sorry if I sound short ... hate typing on phone :)
 

acaciolo

LifeTime Supporter
Apr 15, 2008
75
Northest PA - Lehigh Valley
Hey Jason,
One of the important items in my test was to see how much Crud went back into the water when pulling the cleaner out. Here are my results of the top 3

pentair 820/830 dolphin endeavor - all work the same. cartridge on bottom with a mechanical flap. it works decently, but not 100% perfect. some of the dirty water still comes out if you take it out normally..but not terrible. if you flip it over, there is no problem. But the 820 was hard to flip over because of the lack of handle.

Smartpool scrubber - had a flap that opened on the front that allowed the water to escape, but still let a little bit of dirt out if you didn't flip it.

dolphin m4. when I saw how this was designed, I was very skeptical. it is a cloth bag over the dirt inlet flap rather than a spring loaded door. The top of the back has a weight that makes it fold over when the cleaner isn't on. (sort of like those old change purses your grandmother used to carry...when you pushed them, they open.) When I saw this, I knew it wouldn't work. but...shockingly..it was the best. it lest the water flow through the fabric but not the dirt. This was the best performer of all of them. I've only tested it about 5 cycles, but so far, i haven't had any dirt blow back.
 

larryfl1

Member
Jun 4, 2012
20
hi,

i received my m5....quickly built the cart...took it outside and to action it is.....

the only problem it is having is it only climbs halfway up the walls....

our surface is similar to diamond bright but a little smoother as it has some glass beads that were part of the mix....

what do i need to do to help it climb? different tracks/wheels?

thanks
 

kostia

Active member
Jun 30, 2010
44
I am considering M5 as well. I also have glass beeds as part of the plaster mix. Have you gotten it to climb walls all the way by any chance?
 

RobbieH

TFP Expert
LifeTime Supporter
Aug 30, 2010
4,052
Dallas, TX
I have the Dolphin Deluxe 4, the Leslie's only bot. The bag is a major pain in the butt, I can only imagine the cartridges are far easier to handle. Adjusting the handle does make a big difference in how it tracks the pool and climbs the walls. I have mine set with one float in and one float out. Also, the wall climing for you may improve as the air works its way out of the robot. When mine first goes in, it won't climb the wall completely as the air in the system will cause it to fall away from the wall and go to the floor. After a while, all is good.

Also, mine will dump dirt back into the pool if I take it out slowly. I have to get the handle to the water's surface, then yank it out quickly and in one motion.

Wishes for mine? Cartridges, a daily timer, and remote control. Sounds like the M5 is the way to go.
 

larryfl1

Member
Jun 4, 2012
20
my m5 is climbing about 50% successful now... my suface is a little slick...

cartridge is very easy to clean and overall loving the unit...

also no dirt falls back in when removed...

its a winner
 

Tommy

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LifeTime Supporter
Jun 5, 2012
8
NY
Can anyone point me to where. I can purchase an M5? I'm having some difficulty locating one.

Either post a source or pm me. Thanks!
 

MattM

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LifeTime Supporter
Jul 14, 2011
303
San Diego, CA
Note that the Dolphin Deluxe 5 from Leslies also includes cartridge option....although, one must deal with the fact that leslies mostly sells the deluxe 4 and many of the stores are not that knowledgeable about the deluxe 5 - especially the cartridge option. I went with it though.....I wasn't too comfortable with the responsiveness of the other local maytronics resellers here in san diego so no matter which way I went I was going to end up handling nearly all issues on my own. So far, the deluxe 5 is working well.
 

dmrap

Member
Jun 29, 2012
6
So, I'm new to the forum, but this is the ONLY place that a Google search revealed ANY information on the Dolphin Premier. I have narrowed my choice in robotic cleaner to the Premier, the M4 or the M5. Any thoughts? I have a free form pool....about 26,000 gallons....PebbleTec surface. I am having a hard time deciding between these models as I see more similarities than differences. All of them now have a remote option. All of them have Caddys. All of them have the top loading filters. HELP!!!!
 

jm112533

Member
Jul 1, 2012
7
I am new here and tried to post a reply to this thread but it ended up as a seperate thread. I have the same questions as jmbeaver and dmrap on the Dolphin Premier. Looking at the Maytronics site this unit looks to be a top of the line residential model. I am planning to buy one from poolexpress but would really like to hear some feedback first. Base on the Maytronics site this unit seems every bit as good as the Dolphin Supreme M5... maybe better with the multi-media options. Anybody have any feedback? Thanks.
 

acaciolo

LifeTime Supporter
Apr 15, 2008
75
Northest PA - Lehigh Valley
Hey guys,

SCP has an exclusive on those cleaners, so they don't have as much of a presence as some of their other models.

I currently have an M4 and and M5 in my pool that I am evaluating. After 3 weeks of testing, I can say they are the 2 best cleaners I have ever used (and I've tested about 20 or so over the past few years.)

Differences? the m4 and m5 are exactly the same (top load cartridge, extra high speed 3rd cleaning brush) in almost all areas except the following:

m4 does not come with a remote but you can buy a basic remote for it for around $80
m5 comes with an advanced remote that lets you choose wall scrubbing, ultra clean, and other cleaning modes.
m5 has split drive brushes so it can turn at a zero radius (like a tank) and the remote can easily control it
m4 does not have split drive brushes so when using the remote, it doesn't turn as nicely as it is a much wider radius turn.
m4 has a daily/weekly timer on the power supply so that it will turn on automatically every day/week etc. M5 does NOT have this
m5 does have a delay start (to start the cleaner 1 hour or so after you turn it on.) M4 doesn't have this.


the m5 also costs alot more due to the extra drive motors in the split brushes for the great turning ability. But unless you really really need to control your cleaner's location precisely from the remote control, I don't think giving up the weekly timer feature is worth it.

we will be using the m4 for the pools we build for our customers.

any other questions, feel free to call or email me.

tony c
monogram custom pools