Dirt & sand on the pool floor

You can manually vacuum. It is more labor intensive but it is relaxing to me.

However, a robot is a good investment.
 
Take my robot, speed stir, or SWG, I fill in the pool. I couldn't imagine manually vacuuming.

Miami may be different that an Ohio tree lined lot.
Don't know your pool size, but mine is 30K...big.

YMMV.
 
I love my robot but I can manually vacuum faster and better. Now… pulling the 30 foot hose out, connecting the vacuum head and when done putting it all away, that is the boring and labor intensive part.

Put the robot in the pool, plug it in and turn it on and walk away for 2 hours or so is much easier. No swimming while it is doing its job.

In the heat of the summer, I can manually vacuum while in the pool except the deep end. Win, win for me.
 
Get a battery powered robot. Dont have to plug it in to run it. I take mine, throw it in the pool, pull it out a few hours later. Plug it in to charge. I dont even clean it after every use.

They will handle all the sand that constantly accumulates in a south Florida pool.
 
I have a Polaris 280 that runs for 1 hour each day. It keeps the bottom fairly clean. I’ve haven’t manually vacuumed in 20 years.
I live on a dirt road with a ton of trees around so my pool doesn’t stay clean, but the Polaris 280 helps a lot.
 
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collects on the pool floor and isn’t picked up by the drain/skimmer.
Anything that sinks stays there until it's vacuumed out. Either by an old school manual vac, or a robot.

The skimmers pull floating debris to them but the main drains have very little suction force. You can brush stuff to them as said above, and I do as well, but you're providing all of the movement.
do you see a difference between the suction capabilities of the robot vs manual vacuum?
Robots aren't designed for heavy cleanings like after a big storm or spring opening after you closed or slacked during the colder months.

Robots will get all the crud eventually, but may need many attempts at it.

Manual vacuuming is also nice in that it's on demand. With enough cycles, the robot will get that crud over there, but if you sit there watching it, it'll drive you nuts when it drives right it by several times.
 
Hi GhostRealtor. Welcome to TFP!

I've used a Letro Legend pressure-side cleaner since my pool was installed in 1998. I’ve been mostly happy with it, but it would never pick up the fine dirt and silt that I could see getting swirled around when I brushed the pool floor. The Letro debris bag is just too coarse to contain this fine stuff.

The original reason I’d started looking at robot cleaners was to help me with my least favorite pool task: brushing. During my research, I found it particularly intriguing that some higher-end models have Ultra-Fine filters which claimed the ability to remove fine particles.

Last summer, I pulled the trigger on a Dolphin Explorer E70 which includes the uber-fine filters. After one pass, the fine stuff was gone. Poof! Never to be seen again. Gotta’ admit that after years of pushing that dirt around, this was pretty cool.

So I would suggest that a robot cleaner – with Ultra-Fine filters – is one way to solve your fine dirt issue.

For me, being mostly relieved of brushing duty is by far the bigger reprieve.

Robots aren't designed for heavy cleanings like after a big storm or spring opening after you closed or slacked during the colder months.

Robots will get all the crud eventually, but may need many attempts at it.

This is why I think pressure side cleaners should still be considered. My pool is surrounded by trees and gets hammered a few times a year, leaving significant post-storm debris. In the Fall, we can count on our annually intense leaf/twig drop. The E70 did fantastic with the fine-debris, floor/wall scrubbing and the usual light-duty cleaning, but it's sunken-leaf performance is overshadowed by that of my 26-year-old Letro Legend pressure-side cleaner. The Letro's debris bag is huge by comparison, so it doesn't need to be emptied nearly as often. Plus, its stronger suction and larger throat will pick up heavier debris like gravel and twigs that the E70 just rides over. Consider that the Explorer E70 is one of the most powerful electric robots currently available.

During these heavy cleaning situations, I am also glad I opted for a corded robot. It's runtime is not limited by battery duration. If I do elect to use the E70 to help with a big job, I can let it run continuously, as long as needed, until it's basket is full, then clean the basket and immediately return the robot to the pool to continue its work. I don't have to interrupt the cleaning session to place it on a charger for a few hours before I can use it for another range-limited session.

"Corded robots are inconvenient vs wireless." Perhaps. In my experience, the corded robot's unlimited runtime and superior power offsets the extra effort of spending 30 seconds to drop my E70 in the pool and the 60 seconds needed to wind the cord after taking it out.

I realize many pool owners don’t face these bigger cleaning challenges. I think both corded and cordless robots have their place depending on the job at hand.
 
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Hi GhostRealtor. Welcome to TFP!

I've used a Letro Legend pressure-side cleaner since my pool was installed in 1999. I’ve been mostly happy with it, but it would never pick up the fine dirt and silt that I could see getting swirled around when I brushed the pool floor. The Letro debris bag is just too coarse to contain this fine stuff.

The original reason I’d started looking at robot cleaners was to help me with my least favorite pool task: brushing. During my research, I found it particularly intriguing that some higher-end models have Ultra-Fine filters which claimed the ability to remove fine particles.

Last summer, I pulled the trigger on a Dolphin Explorer E70 which includes the uber-fine filters. After one pass, the fine stuff was gone. Poof! Never to be seen again. Gotta’ admit that after years of pushing that dirt around, this was pretty cool.

So I would suggest that a robot cleaner – with Ultra-Fine filters – is one way to solve your fine dirt issue.

For me, being mostly relieved of brushing duty is by far the bigger reprieve.



This is why I think pressure side cleaners should still be considered. My pool is surrounded by trees and gets hammered a few times a year, leaving significant post-storm debris. In the Fall, we can count on our annually intense leaf/twig drop. The E70 did fantastic with the fine-debris, floor/wall scrubbing and the usual light-duty cleaning, but it's sunken-leaf performance is overshadowed by that of my 26-year-old Letro Legend pressure-side cleaner. The Letro's debris bag is huge by comparison, so it doesn't need to be emptied nearly as often. Plus, its stronger suction and larger throat will pick up heavier debris like gravel and twigs that the E70 just rides over. Consider that the Explorer E70 is one of the most powerful electric robots currently available.

During these heavy cleaning situations, I am also glad I opted for a corded robot. It's runtime is not limited by battery duration. If I do elect to use the E70 to help with a big job, I can let it run continuously, as long as needed, until it's basket is full, then clean the basket and immediately return the robot to the pool to continue its work. I don't have to interrupt the cleaning session to place it on a charger for a few hours before I can use it for another range-limited session.

"Corded robots are inconvenient vs wireless." Perhaps. In my experience, the corded robot's unlimited runtime and superior power offsets the extra effort of spending 30 seconds to drop my E70 in the pool and the 60 seconds needed to wind the cord after taking it out.

I realize many pool owners don’t face these bigger cleaning challenges. I think both corded and cordless robots have their place depending on the job at hand.
Thank you for the detailed response and sorry for missing this.

Your comment makes a lot more sense now that I bought a manual handheld vacuum and used it for a few days. The filter is not nearly as fine as it needs to be to pick up the particles on my pool floor.

I have a screen around my pool area so big leafs aren’t an issue, it’s that very fine dirt and dust sitting on the floor and being moved around when I brush.

I think I’m going to need to suck it up and invest in a proper robot that can handle the fine dirt.
 
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