Can a Pool Leak Really Cause Algae Growth?

NewB77777

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I recently had my pool guy inform me that our pool has a leak, and he claims that this leak is causing algae to grow in the pool. This explanation doesn’t seem to make sense to me, as I thought algae growth was more related to chemical imbalances or lack of maintenance. Could a pool leak really lead to algae growth, or should I be looking for another cause? Any insights would be appreciated!

Additionally, I’m considering cleaning the pool myself. I came across a pool cleaning robot on Amazon: SMONET Cordless Pool Vacuum Robot.
Could you please let me know if this robot works well?


Thank you.
 

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Algae blooms are a lack of chlorine. The poolman is trying to pull the wool over your eyes. You have paid him to sanitize your pool. He didn’t, now he will want to you to pay him to clear the algae which shouldn’t be there in the first place.
 
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Algae grows due to insufficient chlorine for your CYA level.

A leak causing you to add fill water can dilute your pool and lower your chlorine level.

How do you chlorinate your pool?

Post a full set of test results from your test kit. You have been around for 5 years, you should know the drill...

FC
CC
pH
TA
CH
CYA

 
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Algae grows due to insufficient chlorine for your CYA level.

A leak causing you to add fill water can dilute your pool and lower your chlorine level.

How do you chlorinate your pool?

Post a full set of test results from your test kit. You have been around for 5 years, you should know the drill...

FC
CC
pH
TA
CH
CYA

Please review the results below and let me know if there are any issues.

Our pool guy mentioned that he used more chemicals than usual (I’m not exactly sure which chemicals, but I know they included chlorine). Despite this, the chemicals seem to dissipate quickly. He suspects there might be a leak because of this.

He serviced the pool on Friday and added some chemicals. I checked the water yesterday (Saturday), so the results might have been affected by the chemicals he added. I’ll check the water again next Thursday, one day before the pool guy comes, and will update you with the results.

Fc: 6ppm
Cc no present
Ph 8.0
Ta 12-13: 130ppm
Ch 26: 260ppm
Cya: 50
 
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How do you chlorinate your pool?

With a FC of 6ppm you cannot go more then a day without adding chlorine to the pool.
 
A loss of CYA in a relatively short amount of time or an unexplained shift in CH could indicate a leak. Knowing what chemicals he added or is claiming increased usage of would be helpful. The algae is a separate issue. Even leaky pools can be sanitize properly to remain algae free.
 
How do you chlorinate your pool?

With a FC of 6ppm you cannot go more then a day without adding chlorine to the pool.
I just asked to ChatGPT, and below is what ChatGPT said:
Based on ChatGPT, 6ppm looks normal.

For an outdoor pool with a Cyanuric Acid (CYA) level of 50 ppm, the recommended Free Chlorine (FC) level is typically calculated as 7.5% of the CYA level. Here’s how it breaks down:

Minimum FC Level: 3.75 ppm (rounded up to 4 ppm)
Ideal FC Level: 5-8 ppm
 
Targets change based upon climate and the point in the season. The name of the game is to never sniff min FC.

3ppm may last a week in April and 3 hours mid day in August. You cannot go by 'target level 5 to 8ppm' (etc etc).
 
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I just asked to ChatGPT, and below is what ChatGPT said:
Based on ChatGPT, 6ppm looks normal.
The pool store will tell you 1-3 ppm fc is fine and that high phosphates are your issue. Then sell you $250 worth of Phos Free and Copper based Algaecide. I have zero confidence in the advice of either Chat GPT or the pool store.

Bottom line 6 ppm fc with a CYA of 50 is 2 ppm away from falling off the cliff and inviting algae. This can easily be lost in 3-5 hours on a hot day in LA….not to mention the remaining 4 ppm fc won’t last until Thursday when the service man returns returns to replenish the spent chlorine.
 
I just asked to ChatGPT, and below is what ChatGPT said:
Based on ChatGPT, 6ppm looks normal.

For an outdoor pool with a Cyanuric Acid (CYA) level of 50 ppm, the recommended Free Chlorine (FC) level is typically calculated as 7.5% of the CYA level. Here’s how it breaks down:

Minimum FC Level: 3.75 ppm (rounded up to 4 ppm)
Ideal FC Level: 5-8 ppm
You did not answer how you chlorinate your pool.

Please ask ChatGPT what is adding chlorine to your pool daily?
 
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Can these tablets give enough chlorine to pool for one week?

The problem is you do not know the rate the tablets dissolve and how much chlorine is being added daily.

Plus CYA is being added from the tablets. Your CYA is already 50. How high will you let your CYA get to?
 
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Thank you for all answers. He put chlorine tablets in a floating duck.
Can these tablets give enough chlorine to pool for one week?

Thank you.
Maybe but doutful. How many tabs? You’re dependent upon erosion of tablets for daily consistent FC replenishment floating around in a rubber ducky. That ducky may be effected by wind, currents in the pool dictated by the pump and return flow direction. Did ducky get stuck on a tanning ledge yesterday, and not have as much water available to erode the tablets? Did the pump shutoff and stop any current in the pool, so ducky quacked and gave up?

Would you hire Stevie Wonder to drive you across town? He is alive and I like his music, but can he really tell you it’s safe to make the left turn in rush hour with a thousand cars coming at you trying to beat the red light? The service man’s duck is about as useful as Stevie, except Stevie has better than perfect ears to potentially alert you that traffic is coming……Sadly the duck is just rubber, and I’m afraid so is your service man’s brain.

Disclaimer: These thoughts are my own and not the general consensus or affiliated in any way with TFP, its subsidiaries or heirs. No offense to Stevie Wonder, his fans, or his music was intended or implied in this post. While his ability to drive was brought into question due to his lack of sight, his ability to remove algae from a pool was never brought into question. The ability of your service personnel to remove algae from a pool was brought into question, however, and I stand by my assessment as he potentially has mush for brains or just doesn’t care about your water quality as much as you do.
 
And buckle up - the SLAM process can seem like a long ride. It is never a quick fix. You will have to buy a lot of liquid chlorine (and not substitute anything else!), and commit to testing very frequently. As much as initially every 3 hrs during the day, if possible. Test, determine how much liquid is needed to get back to the target, add...wait a bit ... and repeat. Brush frequently - daily or more often. Filter will have to be cleaned as it gathers the debris. Life gets in the way, but the downside is then the process will take longer. Over time, the frequency of testing/adding will reduce, as more and more algae gets killed. There will be deep cleaning - taking out ladders, taking off lights, scrubbing skimmers, etc. to get all the places algae can hide and be safe from Cl.

Sorry to say, but your pool guy did more than let you down, he created a big mess that will require a lot of your attention to fix.
We can help on reducing the pain points in this process, but it will take some serious effort on your part to get it accomplished. Some need a week, for others it stretch's out for weeks - it all depends on how bad the initial conditions are, how dedicated one can be to the process, and not getting fed up and ending it a bit too early.

Read up on it here in the various Pool School and Wiki entries - but going forward, AFTER you have fully defeated the algae, there are really only two paths to take to keep the pool perfect.
1. Daily testing and adding of liquid Cl. Every day during the warm season.
2. Convert to a Salt Generator. It requires a highish startup cost, but has been proven over and over to be a huge long term saver in cost and maintenance time.

Robots have their place, but for the immediate need, save the money and put it toward conversion to a Salt Generator. During the current process to get rid of algae, it will just be another thing to have to frequently clean and maintain as it gets overwhelmed.

Just a brief side note - I was a multi-decade tablet user. I was unknowingly on the treadmill of the tabs adding too much CYA, that then required more tabs. I fought green constantly. There were few days where it wasn't green or cloudy over the years. Many, many, many hundreds of $$ each year. A good week was only needing 2-3 hrs for "pool stuff", usually a lot more. Now, with a better filter (like yours), and a SWCG - I will spend maybe $100-$150 on chems for the year, and never spend more than 1/2 hr a week dealing with the pool....and no robot, I still brush and vacuum manually.
 
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