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I saw your post on another thread so I thought I would share a new set of links I put together about plaster:

How to set up to have the best plaster job: A Plastering 'Watch List' | Professional Watershaping | Watershapes

Brief snap shots of different start ups: Pool School - Start-up New Plaster

Full run down on the best BUT hardest start up: A Bicarb Start-up guide for TFP members

Next best start up BUT it leaves out to NOT put water in the pool right away. Wait at least 6 hours after plaster is put in before putting water in! The back of the card is what you want: Start-up Cards - National Plasterers Council
I have just now started using these links. Let me know what you think.

Start-up Cards - National Plasterers Council

Kim:kim:
 
So I did the math and came up with 37,000 gallons... Does this look like a 37,000 gallon pool to you all? That number seems rather high to me.. 4' shallow, 6' deep end and I measured the L shape in two rectangles and added them together to come to the 37k number.. What do you think based on the pics?

Thanks for the Links Kim!
 
Money questions:

SO i see photos on this sight of some beautiful pools and back yard renovations with budgets in the 5 figure ranges... Then I watch shows like "insane pools" on the animal planet channel and see budgets approaching 7 figures.

We are spending 120k on this pool/paver patio/wood deck/porch/fence, etc. Opinions on what you can see in the pics and what we are spending? I am the worst Monday morning quarterback :confused:
 
propjetprop said:
So I did the math and came up with 37,000 gallons... Does this look like a 37,000 gallon pool to you all? That number seems rather high to me.. 4' shallow, 6' deep end and I measured the L shape in two rectangles and added them together to come to the 37k number.. What do you think based on the pics?

Thanks for the Links Kim!
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Not an answer to your question, but it could be!

Do you have a water meter between your house and your water source? Take a snap shot of the meter right before they start your fill, and a second snap shot when it's done. Difference between the two meter reads will be a more accurate number than you'll ever calculate otherwise. If you have the meter and are interested in this idea, I can give you some other tips to further fine-tune your water volume number... And having an accurate number is very helpful for dialing in your pool's water chemistry and for dosing your pool with the various chemicals it'll need.
 
And to answer your question... 37000 gallons doesn't sound like it is out of line... I have a 24ft round 4.5ft deep pool, and it calculates out to 14600 gallons, so your pool is going to hold just under 3x that volume... About what I would expect.
 
PS. Looking at your first and latest fly-bys... I guess the more room you give 'em, the more they'll use! They sure weren't shy about mucking up your entire yard, were they? Just sensitive to that today because I'm cleaning up after my g-kid's visit yesterday. They managed to destroy my entire house, from one end to the other, in just under four hours! Why can't they keep their mess in one small area!?! ;)

Do you have grand plans for landscaping some or all of that? In this build? Or one step at a time?
 
Dirk said:
PS. Looking at your first and latest fly-bys... I guess the more room you give 'em, the more they'll use! They sure weren't shy about mucking up your entire yard, were they? Just sensitive to that today because I'm cleaning up after my g-kid's visit yesterday. They managed to destroy my entire house, from one end to the other, in just under four hours! Why can't they keep their mess in one small area!?! ;)

Do you have grand plans for landscaping some or all of that? In this build? Or one step at a time?
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Great question.... They sent a guy out with a skid steer to haul off most of the dig dirt, but I requested he use it to grade/flatten out some of the ridges in the back part of the yard. So instead of hauling off the dirt, we used it to make the yard a bit flatter. With that said, I have to add an addition $3800 bucks for 6 more pallets of sod... for a total of 14 pallets of sod for the project!

We plan on doing some pine straw beds around the perimeter of the property... I am right about out of cash.... the original plan was to spend about 80-100k.... we are up to $120k without any plants...:whip:
 
It happens one thing at a time.........oh $1000 for this, another $500 for that, and, and, and, until you see the total and go :shock: HOW DID THAT HAPPEN???

Me? I am keeping it from happening by being happy with my above ground pool no matter how much I oh so want a in ground pool :( Thanks for letting my enjoy your pool with you!

Kim:kim:
 

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propjetprop said:
Money questions:

SO i see photos on this sight of some beautiful pools and back yard renovations with budgets in the 5 figure ranges... Then I watch shows like "insane pools" on the animal planet channel and see budgets approaching 7 figures.

We are spending 120k on this pool/paver patio/wood deck/porch/fence, etc. Opinions on what you can see in the pics and what we are spending? I am the worst Monday morning quarterback :confused:
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As long as you enjoy it, it is worth it. Our projects are costing almost exactly the same $ and mine has a 16x40 fiberglass pool, 370 sq ft or so of retaining wall, 1100 sq ft of pavers, and equipment in my sig (except for the total gallons which is a placeholder until I can find out next week).
 
I spoke with the PB today and asked for a list of the equipment that is going to be installed. I listed it in my signature line... Additionally my math was sooo off... LOL, the pool is 17,300 Gallons! not the 37,000 I came up with.

Looking for critiques on the pool equipment in my signature line before it is installed!

Thanks!
 
Did you freak out when you first saw the robin's egg plaster going in? I did. I didn't put it together right away that it dries darker, and gets darker still when the water goes in!

Is this the first we're hearing of the "Polaris 280 Cleaner-Polaris Booster Pump?" That'll work, but it's considered here at TFP to be "old school." Has the pump been installed yet? Anything out of its box yet? It's the least cost-effective way to clean a pool (by, like, a lot) and its tail whipping around is a pain for several reasons. I had my Polaris' pressure port converted to a suction port (post build) and I'm happy with my vac. Cleans just as well and doesn't require a booster pump, so it's a lot less dough to run. Many here swear by their robots, which clean best and are cheapest to run (by, like, a lot). Something to think about if you haven't unpacked any of that yet.
 
Others can chime in about specific models, etc. There are a lot of 'em!

I have a Pentair Rebel Suction-Side Cleaner. Works for me in my pool, which doesn't get particularly dirty. Based on the conversation here, through many threads, I'd have to guess that a robot cleans best of the three primary choices (robot, suction, pressure). But I'm not ready to switch yet. A cleaner is ugly in the pool. No two ways about that. And they get in the way of swimmers. Robots are supposed to be removed from the pool after each cleaning. Suction vacs can live in a pool 24/365. Robots are heavy, especially when wet, and I wouldn't want to have to wrestle one out often. I take my Rebel out for swim time, but it's relatively light. And I can leave it in the pool all off-season, without having to think about it. For me, the biggest issue is the robot's cord. This big ugly thing running across my deck, down into the pool? No thanks. Others don't seem to mind that at all. My Rebel's hose is almost as ugly, but it's in the water, and I can't really see it from the house. And it's not a tripping hazard.

Robots can brush your pebble for you, some clean your tile. My Rebel does neither.

Oh, the tail. That 280 has a tail that swishes around by its jets, and stirs up dirt and debris into the water so the skimmer can suck it up. But that tail can come out of the water and hose down everything in it's wake: deck, people, furniture, etc. No fun for guests who don't duck fast enough! And it took me a full day of hard labor to remove the resulting pool water spray that had dried on my windows.

Robots and the 280 have a bag that has to be emptied, but neither sends junk to your filter. Suction vacs don't have to be emptied but send everything to your main filter, which will increase to some degree its maintenance (cleaning). For me, I'd rather clean one big thing once or twice a year, than one small thing every day or two.

A suction vac requires a suction port, and that introduces the same type of potential danger, and requires the same type of protections, your drains do (for swimmer safety).

So there's some random thoughts about cleaners. There are a lot of other pros and cons. Other's will weigh in...

Oh, some recommend not running a cleaner on new pebble any time soon (at least weeks, maybe a month or more). So you have some time to sort this out.

Just don't install that booster pump. For the PB: see if he'll credit the whole cleaner system from the price. Then you can buy and add what you want later. Ask him to plumb what was to be the pressure port as a suction port. If you end up with a robot, you can cap off the suction port to make it 100% safe, or leave it functional (with a proper safety flap) for manual vacuuming, should you ever need it.
 
Dirk has you on the right path for the cleaner.

I would recommend deciding what you want from the folks here and telling the PB what you want. Versus asking the PB what your options are. You may need to walk a line between the two, but err on the side of doing your research and getting what you want.

I had a pressure side cleaner and after four years of unsatisfactory coverage and cleaning, ditched it and it's booster pump and now very happily use a robot. See my signature for a link/details.
 

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