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JoyfulNoise said:
Have you measured your well water parameters - pH/CH/TA ? I assure you, it’s possible to run an SWG even in high hardness water. My first cell, 8 year service life, spent most of those years with the pool water calcium hardness between 650ppm to nearly 1500ppm. And the cell remained clean and operational the entire time. It’s a matter of preventative maintenance and proper pool care. Most pool owners don’t properly care for their pools and leave it up to service techs that do an even worse job at it. Then they wonder why things go bad … if a person never changes the oil in their car until the low oil service light comes on, is that the person you should be taking advice on auto care from?
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Agred w maintenance, but that goes for everything. Problem is there are only so many hrs in a day and you cant do it all.

Question though, why must he install a SWG? Can you give me one maybe two reasons why it is better or makes more sense to add a SWG over simple chlorination?

I have explained my argument, or side. Simply put, you end with same (chlorine in your pool) and added benefit of having another system to monitor, maintain and play with, at additional startup cost. When i put it like that 90% of ppl who wanted SWG change their mind, because they a. did not know it uses chlorine to sanitize, and b. they thought it was healthier.
 
JoyfulNoise said:
Have you measured your well water parameters - pH/CH/TA ? I assure you, it’s possible to run an SWG even in high hardness water. My first cell, 8 year service life, spent most of those years with the pool water calcium hardness between 650ppm to nearly 1500ppm. And the cell remained clean and operational the entire time. It’s a matter of preventative maintenance and proper pool care. Most pool owners don’t properly care for their pools and leave it up to service techs that do an even worse job at it. Then they wonder why things go bad … if a person never changes the oil in their car until the low oil service light comes on, is that the person you should be taking advice on auto care from?
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I have to echo Matt's experience. I ran a salt pool for about 3 years at my previous house. I watched TFP parameters like a hawk and after 3 years % power never changed and run time was about the same entire time. I'm sure it would have declined over time but no visible build up so I never even had to clean it. Ran CSI slightly negative the entire time. Also kept CYA at 80 so the cell didn't have to work as hard. My experience with pool services and "technicians" is that only one of the ones I spoke with had a clue about real pool chemistry. And none of them understood how to set/operate a salt pool. I recommended a few come here to learn. Never heard back from them though.

Chris
 
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@Stija From my experience with SWG over 22 years in my Phoenix AZ Pebbletec pool, I've done 4 total T15 cells (I need a new one now to make 5). Without amortizing the entire system price over 22 years and just using the current ripoff cost of $899 for a T15 cell, if I get my typical 5 years out of it, that would equate to $3.46 per week for SWG of chlorine. Keep in mind that the price of a new cell was not ridiculous for the first few years of our pool use. Because I need a new cell now, I'm using liquid chlorine from Wally World at a cost of $5.44 per gallon. That costs me about $21.76 per week right now compared to $3.46 if the SWG was working. Of course this does not take into account the salt I add every two years when I drain 1/2 my pool, or the oddball repair parts to the salt generator over the past 22 years (two flow switches, three cell unions, two thermistors for the logic board, one timer, etc. I do not go to extremes to keep my pool balanced and yet I have not had algae for several years, knock on wood. So it can be pretty easy to attain chlorine savings with SWG.
 
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Nice and congrats! Please keep us posted. I hope you decided to do swg but hey, it's your pool and for many things about pools owner preference rules! Please keep us posted and now would be a great time to order your TFP approved kit. We don't sell anything but we have found a few that we know work great and here's what you need to know:

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Also, this is a good time to read through your contract to review your obligations and the contractor's. Also look at your responsibilities for startup. It will be here sooner than you think!

Great photos! Please keep them rolling in! And of course any questions you may have as construction proceeds.

Chris
 
From the sounds of it, your pool is not going to take very long. You might even get to jump in before the weather gets too chilly. 🤞

Ours took about a year and even then, there were things on back order that we had to wait on or find elsewhere. It was a stressful but we are sooooo glad we did it. It's been almost two and half years since we originally filled the pool. In that time, there's only been a handful of days that it hasn't been used in one way or another.



AndyMac1 said:
Well, signed our contract June 1st, and broke ground Monday July 1st. Starting to look like a pool.
Concrete guy was hoping plumbing and rebar would be next week so he could shoot it ASAP
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Good to see this thread heading back in the right direction instead of the direction the hijackers were pushing it. I look forward to seeing your progress pics.
 
TheNameIsSam said:
From the sounds of it, your pool is not going to take very long. You might even get to jump in before the weather gets too chilly. 🤞

Ours took about a year and even then, there were things on back order that we had to wait on or find elsewhere. It was a stressful but we are sooooo glad we did it. It's been almost two and half years since we originally filled the pool. In that time, there's only been a handful of days that it hasn't been used in one way or another.




Good to see this thread heading back in the right direction instead of the direction the hijackers were pushing it. I look forward to seeing your progress pics.
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Builder told us while they were digging, hoping to be complete in 3 months, but I think that sounds ambitious.
 
setsailsoon said:
Nice and congrats! Please keep us posted. I hope you decided to do swg but hey, it's your pool and for many things about pools owner preference rules! Please keep us posted and now would be a great time to order your TFP approved kit. We don't sell anything but we have found a few that we know work great and here's what you need to know:

Test Kits Compared

Also, this is a good time to read through your contract to review your obligations and the contractor's. Also look at your responsibilities for startup. It will be here sooner than you think!

Great photos! Please keep them rolling in! And of course any questions you may have as construction proceeds.

Chris
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Thanks,
We are still sticking with a chlorine pool, and not a SWG.

I've been studying up on water chemistry and test kits, but I haven't pulled the plug and bought anything yet.
 
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Got to head back out yesterday to deliver some stuff to the house. First time seeing the pool all dug and layed out. Waiting on rebar and plumbing, was hoping that was happening this week, but hopefully next week. First though was, Dang, I guess it's not a small pool. All this time while it was just painted on the ground or a rendering, we were thinking it was small. FWIW, it's around 38x20 at its widest point, and the deep end is 8ft.Resized_20240711_181627_1720876968423.jpegResized_20240712_055548_1720881882119.jpegResized_20240712_071032_1720876931364.jpegResized_20240712_095252_1720877340411.jpegResized_20240712_095300_1720877329748.jpegResized_20240712_055517_1720881899460.jpeg
Picked up the cactus for the 2 corners of the pool area, also got our final pool fencing picked out and they are starting to build it this week.
 
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Had a delay with the plumbers, they decided to take a week off before they came back and finished the plumbing.
We appear to be back on track and moving a long. Plumbers finished last Monday, and the re-bar guys finished last Wed. Inspector didn't like a couple things, so plumbers and re-bar guys were back out here Saturday. We have re-inspection scheduled for today, and shooting concrete on Wednesday.
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We also got one of our sections of the pool enclosure fencing dropped off so we can check it out, and also talk it thru with the inspector before we build and install it all. Neither myself or the person building the fence for us are fencing contractors, so we're hoping we read/interpreted the code correctly.Resized_20240811_161944_1723466628622.jpeg
 

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