Did you get the settlement from the Pool Builder Insurance Company or the Concrete/ Gunite installer Insurance Company?
ASR - Concrete Cancer - Austin, TX
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Pool builder insurance company is who paid our settlement. My understanding is they were then going after the concrete company.
Hi all, my pool company (Hill Country) advised yesterday that we may have ASR. The joy! Thanks for letting me be part of the group - pool was built in 2020/21 in South Austin by Arcoiris pools, a subcontractor for Joseph Design Build.
We’re not jumping to any conclusions before we get a full inspection & core test… but these pics don’t inspire me with confidence given what I’ve seen here on this forum and elsewhere.
We’re not jumping to any conclusions before we get a full inspection & core test… but these pics don’t inspire me with confidence given what I’ve seen here on this forum and elsewhere.
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This makes me so happy for you! I have tried to message you with no luck. I’d appreciate any help you could give me or even if you would be willing to talk on the phone.
I’m already broke on a budget and can’t fathom no pool for my kids.
Did you use the same company or a different one?
What was your first step?
Did you have a sample complete to test for ASR?
- Jan 3, 2023
- 344
- Pool Size
- 9500
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
What are you all doing if the pool builder is not willing to test for ASR? We are getting new cracks daily on an 3 year old pool and the pebble tec is looking very strange, losing water through a crack and a lot of salt. They are telling us Gunite was not affected, which I know is not the case. I appreciate any feedback or help on suggestions for next steps. Thanks
We may have to but this is about $10,000 and unfortunately not really looking to spend or even have that much money on a test the pool builder should be doing. Not sure if you are in central Texas but this is really a mess here and unfortunately the pool/home owners are the one having to pay. Hope some others who have already gone through this can share their experience. Thanks
Without an expert opinion about your case, you do not have anything to force the builder to take any sort of action.
$10,000.00 seems high.
Who quoted $10,000.00 and what does that include?
$10,000.00 seems high.
Who quoted $10,000.00 and what does that include?
You might need a lawyer to see what legal actions are available.
Does the Builder have any sort of Bond or Errors and Omissions Insurance?
In any case, you probably need a professional evaluation that can do a thorough diagnosis of exactly what problems exist and what caused the problems.
Without that you have mostly opinion, speculation and conjecture, which are not actionable.
Any Cause of Action has to have a complaint that identifies exactly what the problems are, why the problems happened, who is to blame and exactly why the person or company is liable.
A Complaint or Cause of Action has to have a legal theory on which relief can be granted.
A legal theory can be something like negligence, malpractice etc.
You have to be able to show what Industry Accepted Practices are and how the Company did not follow the acceptable practices.
Which parts of the job were done by the builder and which parts were subcontracted out?
If the gunite and/or plaster were subcontracted, have you contacted the subcontractors?
Have you contacted the concrete supplier to see what they had to say about the problem?
Have you requested a Batch Report for the concrete?
If the gunite and/or plaster were subcontracted, have you contacted the subcontractors?
Have you contacted the concrete supplier to see what they had to say about the problem?
Have you requested a Batch Report for the concrete?
Thanks for the reply. It was all subcontracted out by the builder. The builder and Gunite manager have been to look at it. They say all of the cracks are normal for a 3 year old pool and cracks just ooze white stuff. Not really buying this explanation so I think you are correct t we may have to get a professional engineer or non-partial party to also look at it
If pebble tec cracks does a white substance form on the crack? I was not sure what it should look like if it is just pebble tec. Also it’s strange the builder is having the Gunite team fix it and go under their warranty instead of pebble tec
It might be just the plaster or it might be the gunite.
You need an expert for proper testing and diagnosis.
You need an expert for proper testing and diagnosis.
Structural cracks are long and you can tell they are structural.
ASR cracks are a smaller crazed pattern, which can be similar to plaster cracks.
The only way to tell for sure is to remove a section of plaster to see if the cracks are in the gunite or just in the plaster.
If yes, then you confirm with core drilled samples sent to a lab for analysis.
ASR cracks are a smaller crazed pattern, which can be similar to plaster cracks.
The only way to tell for sure is to remove a section of plaster to see if the cracks are in the gunite or just in the plaster.
If yes, then you confirm with core drilled samples sent to a lab for analysis.
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Hi, thanks! And sorry some of yall are dealing with this nightmare. We used a new company. But my original builder was helpful in the process. My first step was to hire an engineer to understand more. Try and send me a message again and I’ll share my number.
Hi
@Hchang We are also located in Round Rock, and just purchased our home in late 2023, with the pool already installed by previous owners. The pool builder was also Southpaw, installed in 2022. We are now also seeing a lot alarming signs of ASR - cracking all over - in the hot tub, in the plaster of the pool sides and bottom, and even some cracks forming on the exterior. It has gotten exponentially worse as this year has progressed. No leaks yet, but I think it's only a matter of time before the exterior cracks go all the way through to the interior.
I would be very interested in getting in touch with you to see how your situation has evolved. I am not sure how to send private messages on here, but if you see this and are willing to connect on this, please let me know. Thanks!
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