AA treatment questions.

congachile

Member
Sep 5, 2022
12
Charlotte, NC
Pool Size
9500
Surface
Fiberglass
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Hayward Turbo Cell (T-CELL-5)
New pool here, not real familiar with all the ins and outs, but have been lurking in the shadows here since I discovered TFP last fall and trying to learn. New fiberglass pool installed and opened late August 2023 and only had a short time to use it last summer. One thing I immediately noticed was a tanning around the entire pool below the waterline. I couldn't get any answers from anyone, dealer, pool store, etc. They all thought I was either delusional or sunlight was playing tricks on my vision. Pool shell is a light blue but below waterline it's a definite tan. I finally happened on a thread here at TFP that explained the iron staining and read all that I could find on it. We have red clay soil here and while they were building it there was dirty water in for several weeks. At opening they filtered, balanced and turned it over to me. If only I had known.
So, I did the AA treatment yesterday, followed the instructions to a T. I ended up using 2 pounds of AA, Jacks Purple, Polyquat 60, still a few rusty spots on the bottom that look like a piece of iron had laid there for a while, but the tanning disappeared and I am now in the process of bringing up the PH. I think I may have taken it too low to begin with (I got the Taylor 2006C Kit) but all seems fine so far. Since the PH test doesn't go below 7.0 I can only guess how low it went. Water is cloudy/milky as mentioned in some posts but yesterday it was sparkling clean and had never looked better.
My question is, when exactly do I put the polyfill in the skimmer basket to filter out the iron? Should I actually try to force the iron out of solution in order to capture it in the polyfill? Also, I put a solar cover on every night to preserve heat and chemistry and when I took it off this morning, the sides of the pool had once again taken on a tanning stain but a couple of hours later it seems to have disappeared again. Am I imagining that? My cover is clear, only slightly dirty from whatever falls in from the trees, bugs, frogs, salamanders, etc. What could possibly be going on?
 
Welcome to TFP! :wave: You can put some polyfill in the skimmer now if you want, although it may/may not actually collect anything if the iron is in a stable-soluble form. If you try to aggerivate the iron (high FC or pH) to enhance filtering, you run the risk of stains returning. As for the cover, I would leave it off for now until you get all the levels stabilized. Only then after you slowly increase the FC and get the pH back into the 7.2-7.8 range can you experiment with things one at a time to find out what works best for your pool based on the current iron content in the water.
 
Thanks, Texas. I've seen many of your posts and you've been very helpful already. Another quick question, I see a lot of posts saying get your FC and PH up and the others saying get your PH and FC up. Is it PH first, FC up first or does it matter which is first?
 
Is it PH first, FC up first or does it matter which is first?
Normally it doesn't really matter and they can be done (slowly) at the same time. However this time of year I would probably focus on the FC at first only to try and avoid algae. The Poly 60 will only last a short time. Be very mindful of the chlorine as you add it since you will be dealing with residual AA consuming the FC until it begins to hold again. From there you'll be watching to see if the staining tries to return. It's a bit of a chess game at that point.

For the pH, just get it up to about 7.2 for now and that's fine.
 
Thanks, Texas. I'll post my final results.
Normally it doesn't really matter and they can be done (slowly) at the same time. However this time of year I would probably focus on the FC at first only to try and avoid algae. The Poly 60 will only last a short time. Be very mindful of the chlorine as you add it since you will be dealing with residual AA consuming the FC until it begins to hold again. From there you'll be watching to see if the staining tries to return. It's a bit of a chess game at that point.

For the pH, just get it up to about 7.2 for now and that's fine.
One more question, I've seen baking soda and borax recommended to raise PH. Which is best for this situation?
 
Thanks, sorry to ask so many questions, but each one seems to spark another. So, if we're raising the FC slowly, why not just set the SWG to something like 1% or 2%? Seems like it would automatically do the same thing as adding a bit of bleach every few hours without having to remember to do it.
 
why not just set the SWG to something like 1% or 2%?
You could, but then you wouldn't have the precision that dosing with liquids gives you right now. After the AA you are taking baby steps wit the FC and you need to dose exactly when & by how much you want. The SWG is convenient, but not quite as predictable. I would stick (slowly) with liquid for now until you feel like you're in the clear with the FC and staining, then bring the SWG into the equation.
 
So, two weeks of the AA treatment, slowly getting the FC back up, taking another week, while monitoring the PH, all looked real good. Stains gone, chemistry all balanced, a little more bleach to get it up just a bit more. Next morning, it was all back and seemingly worse than where I started. Thanks for the advice, Texas. I'll try again in October. .
 

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