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    Re: Reluctantly considering converting to chlorine

    I am also going to change to chlorine from Baquacil this year. I am having a hard time figuring out how to use the pool calculator.
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    Help me in using the pool calculator

    Jason, can you help me in using the pool calculator? I filled in the width, length and depth to get 20,000 gallons, what do I do next? (I am going to change from Baquacil to chlorine)
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    There is a good article at Pool School on how to use the Pool Calculator. Also, have you read the Pool School article on doing Baquacil Conversions yet?

    Once you have figured out the size of your pool, you want to enter that number in the orange size field near the top. To continue using the Pool Calculator you need to know what you are trying to do. Presumably you will be raising the FC level up to 15. To do that you enter your current FC level (possibly zero?) in the Now column, 15 in the target column, and if needed the strength/percentage of the bleach you will be using in the bleach strength field. The Pool Calculator will then tell you how much bleach to add.
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    Thanks Jason! I think I was trying to make it harder that it is!
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    My alkanity is around 340 after the winter and leaving the pool open. What exactly is that telling me, except that it is too high and that I need to add muriatic acid?
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    High TA tends to cause PH to rise and it can also lead to calcium scaling unless PH and CH are both relatively low.

    We can give you more specific help if you post a full set of test results.
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    I just ordered the TF100 kit to be able to test all aspects that I need to. This is a wonderful site and the pool calculator is great! Thanks so much!
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    I started with the conversion tonight, the water turned from clear blue to a greenish color right away. I am taking picutes to share when this is all done.
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    You will be glad you chose to convert!

    If you get stuck or have any questions, ask away!!!

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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    Quote Originally Posted by rcar430
    I started with the conversion tonight, the water turned from clear blue to a greenish color right away. I am taking picutes to share when this is all done.
    Aw, come on!

    Post something now! It's not nice to tease us!
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    I gotta' agree with Richard on this! LOL

    We're on stand-by to help you in any way and waiting to see your pics!
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    Baquacil/Chlorine Conversion
    3/17/2010
    FC 0
    PH 8.2
    TA 340
    Added Muriatic acid to lower PH before starting conversion

    3/18/2010
    FC 0
    PH 6.8
    TA 300
    Added 546 oz (3-182 oz bottles) 6% chlorine bleach
    3/19/2010 (received TFT100XL)
    Checked FC in the AM and it showed 0
    7:30 PM - Added 546 oz 6% chlorine bleach
    9:00 PM – FC at 11, added 182 oz 6% chlorine bleach
    10:30 PM – FC at 2
    (not sure if I am reading the chlorine only right, I can put in 4 drops and the color disappears, then it comes back and will go away again after adding two more drops, then the color comes back and again and again. So is the first reading right or do I keep on adding drops each time it turns pink again)

    3/20/2010 (Pouring down rain and the temperature has dropped 20 degrees from yesterday)
    FC 2
    TC 5
    What does it mean when the TC is higher than the FC?
    Should I keep on with the conversion during the rain or wait until it is gone?
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    I am currently trying to figure out how to post pictures, will get them on soon, I hope.
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    The conversion doesn't care if it is raining or not, but you might. If you feel like continuing in the rain, that is fine. If you want to take a break, that is also fine.

    FC is free chlorine, active chlorine available to sanitize the pool or perform the conversion
    CC is combined chlorine, an inactive form of chlorine that appears temporarily when the chlorine is working. Normally, you don't want any CC in the pool.
    TC is total chlorine, the sum of FC and CC.

    During a baquacil conversion the CC level can get quite high. As chlorine works, it first forms CC fairly quickly, and then breaks down further at a much slower rate. Doing a conversion, there is so much work for the chlorine to do that a lot of CC gets formed and takes a long time to break down. You will know when the conversion is finally over when the CC level finally goes down.

    Doing the FAS-DPD test when there is a high CC level can cause the sample to turn pink again quite quickly after it goes clear. You want to add drops till it turns clear and stays clear for several seconds. If you then leave the sample alone for just a little longer it will turn pink again, which isn't a problem and does not count.
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    Ok, This all helps so much.
    I do not mind the rain, I will continue the conversion, it is really kind of exciting!
    I am having trouble attaching pictures, do you have any hints?
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    There is a description of one of the ways to post images in this topic.
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    Does anyone know about how long it should take to do this conversion in a pool the size of mine?
    Or how much 6% chlorine it may take? So far I have used 21 gallons.
    My starting Baquacil level was 0.
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    Too many variables to predict. The more often you stay on top of maintaining the FC level, the quicker it may go. Some have been a few days, others a week, others longer. No way to predict, unfortunately. Same with the amount of bleach, but I'd say you have a ways to go yet. You could easily go thru 40 gal if not more.

    If you can find the stronger 10-12.5% for a decent price, that might be easier and you'll haul less jugs....
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    Re: Baquacil conversion in Texas

    I started with the correct PH and at this time during the conversion I am not testing the PH, should I be? I was under the impression that the PH would not read correct during the conversion, is that correct?
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    Re: Help me in using the pool calculator

    You don't normally need to check the PH during a conversion. If you do feel like checking the PH, only do so when the FC level is below 5 or so.
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