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  1. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    The bad thing is I only got one of the two shipments, the other is "delayed". :(
  2. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    Sep 6 I think: 23 2491900 Q1 MA-01
  3. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    I'll be honest, I don't play the Julian date game. Have to get my glasses and a calculator, getting too old for all that.
  4. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    Well, it has been available to order online at Walmart at the $5.67 price. I went ahead and had 8 gallons "shipped". Normally I can get the free shipping and they just run it over using their couriers the same as delivery (same day or next day). This order really did ship out of Florida...
  5. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    I feel this headline today is somehow related: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/clorox-products-may-be-in-short-supply-following-cyberattack/
  6. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    Walmart lied again and said it was stocked at my location but wasn't. Home Depot and Lowes are out in my county. I went to the Lowes one county over which claimed to have 50 gallons. They lied, they only had four and one was leaking. So, I got three...and those look like they were buried and...
  7. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    I have to believe market forces will create demand destruction for LC above that $7 / gallon level. But in the short term, supply and demand can get out of balance.
  8. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    Fair point. It's funny, I used to buy that calcium hardness Crud by the bucketload back when I was getting pool store'd. I had to load up every year. Where does it go?? Then I discovered TFP and learned that I probably don't even need it at all and haven't looked back. So, I'm starting from...
  9. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    128 oz of 10% bleach is $8.98 in my area. That's a FC increase of 5 ppm in 20K gallons. The equivalent amount of 65% cal-hypo is 21 oz. At $0.34 / ounce that comes to $7.14. Actually, that's the price for 68% which skews it in favor of cal-hypo a bit more. The fact that LC weakens can skew...
  10. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    That's what I thought at first, but I have a link saved to the one gallon and I double-checked it yesterday. It was definitely marked up but is back down to $5.67 today. It is cheaper to just use cal-hypo right now.
  11. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    Also, Walmart was completely out of unscented cleaning bleach.
  12. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    Walmart price just shot up to $11.40 / gallon today. It shows as being in stock at my location but isn't (again).
  13. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    I see the SW conversion as being risky not knowing what bleach prices will be during that "payback" period. It's really an unsupported, bold claim without any supporting analysis of why bleach prices have more than doubled in just a few years.
  14. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    Nah, won't even let you order it online right now.
  15. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    The TFP herd seems to be moving to the SWG pastures. I'll look at that next year, this year I'm going to focused on getting it covered and closed. Was there a run on these supplies or something? Where I live, it's worse right now than in 2020. There isn't an explanation that I've found...
  16. C3Cl3N3O3

    Need a winning strategy for VSP with DE

    Here is my basic maintenance schedule for my VSP: 18 hours at 1400 RPM 4 hours at 2350 RPM 2 hours off I check the sand filter pressure at 2750 RPM (service mode). This ranges from 12 - 20 PSI, backwash around 18 (around once a month normally). I deep-cleaned the sand filter a year or two...
  17. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    The Walmart go-to single gallon item is out of stock online and in stores. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Pool-Essentials-Chlorinating-Liquid-for-Swimming-Pools-1-Gallon/48938023 There's a third-party listing up there gouging for $50 for two gallons...
  18. C3Cl3N3O3

    2023 Bleach Prices

    $8.98 per gallon at Lowes today. I can't rely on Walmart so I had to bank 3 gallons on the way home.
  19. C3Cl3N3O3

    Does anybody make a skimmer basket that lasts?

    Thanks, I sent them an email on the subject.
  20. C3Cl3N3O3

    Does anybody make a skimmer basket that lasts?

    It's not a showstopper but a bummer. If the rubber breaks down or becomes sticky or whatever, I'm going to be ****** and will return it.
  21. C3Cl3N3O3

    Does anybody make a skimmer basket that lasts?

    It doesn't rise to the level of necessitating all that, but it's kind of a bummer. What were they thinking?
  22. C3Cl3N3O3

    Does anybody make a skimmer basket that lasts?

    So I do have a minor niggle about the ProTuff after living with it for a few hours. The grey color heats up to a million degrees in full sun. My cheap ones are white or blue and don't have that issue.
  23. C3Cl3N3O3

    Does anybody make a skimmer basket that lasts?

    OK I had some reservations about the cost but I got the 16' ProTuff pole. My dream was being able to adjust the height while brushing as I like the 16' length but have some overhanging branches at the deep end. The el-cheapos don't get you there because those standard couplings are hard to...
  24. C3Cl3N3O3

    Return of the low chlorine demanding mustard algae

    That's fair. I can report all clear here on Day 5. So that's good. If you are clarifying for posterity, I had some confusion over the procedure "raise the FC level up to the extra high mustard algae shock level for 24 hours". https://www.troublefreepool.com/blog/2019/01/18/mustard-algae/ I...
  25. C3Cl3N3O3

    Return of the low chlorine demanding mustard algae

    Link? You can swim up to SLAM level which is 15 at CYA 40. Slightly above that is more of a comfort and bleaching issue than a safety issue. So, I'm not of the opinion that 24 parts per MILLION free chlorine is going to damage my liner in any way.
  26. C3Cl3N3O3

    Return of the low chlorine demanding mustard algae

    Well things are looking pretty good. The procedure I is use is my Double Slam! Here is the event log: 1) Brushed pool Tuesday night, heavy algae on liner only. Backwashed and ran FC up to 24. 2) Tested FC Wednesday morning, right at 24. Brushed, modest algae on liner. 3) Tested FC Wednesday...
  27. C3Cl3N3O3

    Return of the low chlorine demanding mustard algae

    Thanks, yeah I was thinking along those lines. Next year though, maybe March through May. Once I get into summer, I seem to be fine.
  28. C3Cl3N3O3

    Return of the low chlorine demanding mustard algae

    A critical aspect of SLAM is the overnight free chlorine loss test. I already know the result, basically zero. So, this procedure as stated doesn't seem to work in my case.
  29. C3Cl3N3O3

    Return of the low chlorine demanding mustard algae

    I will say I'm not super diligent about raking and brushing early in the season, sometimes I let things slide. So, I'm guessing the leaves and dirt give the algae a hideout to cling to. There wasn't a lot, but it wasn't totally clean. Dang!
  30. C3Cl3N3O3

    Return of the low chlorine demanding mustard algae

    OK it seems like this is an annual event for me every springtime. I really have had a tight control on things this year. Here are my numbers currently: CYA: 40 pH: 7.4 TA: 70 My FC target is 3 - 7, and I usually dose it to 9 or so. My daily chlorine demand this time of year is consistently...