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    New EVO 614i Robot Pool Cleaner Review

    @brandon32689, I'll second/third the suggestion to use an authorized dealer like Marina. I decided to return they Evo that they sold me and they issued a refund.
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    Suction side cleaners

    Testing with the flow gauge pretty much confirms the wheel-revolution method of setting pump speed, The flow gauge is a little more permissive than the wheel test, which says to aim for 16-18 rpm. 2000 rpm on pump shows "minimum" on flow gauge with clean skimmer, about 14 rpm on Rebel. 2200 rpm...
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    Suction side cleaners

    Hose-out-of-water test along entire length yielded no sucking sounds. Moved the float even further up (36" from cleaner) and it did not go into the shallow end as much, so put it back at 25". My Craigslist seller found the 41200-0212 flow gauge and some other pieces in "a bag of parts we...
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    Suction side cleaners

    I am not a good enough swimmer to chase that thing around while it's working lol. Fortunately the instructions say to count revolutions while holding it just below the surface. I'll see if I can do a more thorough leak check. Thinking about the flow check thing.
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    Suction side cleaners

    @Dirk, thanks for al your time and thoughts. Modifying the wheels could help. I think it was the local pool store guy who mentioned, talking about a different cleaner, that I'd need the cork modification for it to work on fiberglass--maybe referring to Hayward cork shoes, though I thought he...
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    Suction side cleaners

    I thought the leaves waiting in the shallow end are the treats!!?? The float was 23" from the Rebel. It's supposed to be 25". Terrible! I moved it two inches. From the manual's troubleshooting section, the idea to check if the right wheel can be turned easily by hand. Yes. Also if the swivel...
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    Suction side cleaners

    The saga continues. I've confirmed that the Rebel mostly stays in the deep end. It actually seems to wander a little further towards shallow when I slow it down (2000 rpm) vs. keeping it at the recommended pace, which requires 2300-2500 rpm, but it still strongly favors the deep end. It does get...
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    Suction side cleaners

    LOL back at ya. Excellent points. It does sound like you have more patience (and appropriate plumbing) for ongoing fiddling than I do. My goal is to find two magic pump speeds, one with and one without solar, that will also run the cleaner and skimmer, then figure out how long to run the pump...
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    Suction side cleaners

    At some point years ago, I decided my filter's pressure gauge wasn't telling me much. It never seemed to go up much even when the filter was getting dirty. Maybe because the filter is kinda big for this pool size. I have turned up some notes on rpm, e.g after not cleaning the filer for almost...
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    Suction side cleaners

    The blue vac plate regulator (actually white in my pool) is not manually adjustable--it has a spring that I guess is supposed to keep a little of the skimmer going while giving regulated suction to the hose. I did try removing the skimmer and doing a direct connection to the suction line. That...
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    Suction side cleaners

    @Dirk Thanks very much for those details. Yes, I got the leader hose and float. No, I didn't get a flow meter, but the instruction book says if you're missing that, adjust flow to make the Rebel wheels turn at 16-18 rpm, so that's how I've been testing. I thought about buying one of those inline...
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    Suction side cleaners

    I lucked into a barely-used Pentair Rebel v2 on Craigslist from a couple who backfilled their pool after using it for a couple months. Still early days, but it seems to be doing pretty well. Definitely better than the Kreepy at the middle of the pool, but it usually doesn't climb very far up the...
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    Suction side cleaners

    Marty, I checked out your blog page. I love the look of your pool! All those steps must be a challenge for cleaners, but they sure look inviting for lounging around :). The Evo 614iQ did a great job climbing my fiberglass walls when it wanted to. Unfortunately it's programmed to focus more on...
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    Suction side cleaners

    Local pool store guy just mentioned an interesting point: robots and presumably wheeled suction cleaners have more trouble on slick fiberglass walls. He feels a the Kreepy 360042 with its large, pleated disk that sucks onto the wall may be best for fiberglass. That's possibly an...
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    Suction side cleaners

    Nice! How old is the hose? Anything special about it? I've been using this Amazon hose for 4 years and most sections are still going strong, so I'd rather not replace it unless it's too heavy or something. BTW the hose is stamped "Made in the USA," so that's nice.
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    Suction side cleaners

    I'm following this with interest after trying and returning a robot. Coming from a Kreeply Classic K70405. First try, a $100 Vingli from Amazon, isn't terrible but is missing spots and getting stuck at stairs. @nuke_twidget What did you wind up doing? @Dirk On the Rebel v2, did you get the...
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    New EVO 614i Robot Pool Cleaner Review

    I said a few pages back that I'd want to schedule mine to run overnight when power is cheaper. Checked power consumption with a Kill A Watt device today. During operation, usage varies from about 3 to 80 watts depending on how many motors are running. Over a 2.5-hour cycle, the Kill A Watt...
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    Evo 614iQ only partially cleaning walls

    Ran it five hours today (two cycles). Before the second cycle, I accepted the offer to upgrade the firmware, which gave me Control Box V21C25 and Robot V21E24. After the second cycle, a total of 11 hours over three days, some of the walls especially in the deep end still have not been cleaned...
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    Evo 614iQ only partially cleaning walls

    Thanks. That single rear-facing jet is pretty powerful--it has no trouble reaching the waterline when it "wants" to (hard not to ascribe a personality to the thing). It has two modes, bottom only or bottom/wall/tile line. It actually did a great job on the floor debris--after about four hours on...
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    Evo 614iQ only partially cleaning walls

    Even the remote phone app, as far as I can tell, only allows you to stop the cycle, not pause it. Yes it occasionally climbs to the waterline, so I know it can. And it does fine dislodging algae where it goes. This early video, taken before I thought to remove the old Kreepy hose, demonstrates...
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    New EVO 614i Robot Pool Cleaner Review

    Done, thanks: https://www.troublefreepool.com/threads/evo-614iq-only-partially-cleaning-walls.282138/
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    Evo 614iQ only partially cleaning walls

    I first put my new 614iQ in the water yesterday, one day after a good rain from Tropical Storm Hilary. It did a great job on leaves--had to empty it twice during the cycle yesterday. (Well actually that seems to stop the cycle so you have to start over--how do you pause this thing?) I'm...
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    New EVO 614i Robot Pool Cleaner Review

    I first put my new 614iQ in the water yesterday, one day after a good rain from Tropical Storm Hilary. It did a great job on leaves--had to empty it twice during the cycle yesterday. (Well actually that seems to stop the cycle so you have to start over--how do you pause this thing?) I'm...
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    2023 Hurricane Prep

    @KJB1 so about three inches of rain in Temecula? That's not a little. I'm near the San Diego airport, which reported 1.8 inches, but I think it was less into my pool. Seems Palm Springs was hit pretty hard.
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    2023 Hurricane Prep

    There's a misunderstanding here. The officials are informing/reminding that storm sewers empty directly into the ocean without treatment. These painted signs are all over: In fact further down that city document that I linked earlier, it says, "All filter backwash fluids must be discharged...