Water Loss Over Winter/ Buckling Walls - HELP!!!

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Thanks for all the responses. We have released the pressure and some of the walls seem to have come back into shape. At this point should we add more water?
Also still trying to figure out why this happened and where the water went. Water is well below our skimmer and we have a hose going from our skimmer to intake so there would be no way for it to exit that way. If it was a leak why didn’t we have anything al summer? Thanks again everyone.
 
Arzgrl21 said:
If it was a leak why didn’t we have anything al summer?
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Not to be Captain Obvious or anything, but if it happened in December (?), you would have been fine last August. :)

Has there been any visible wet areas at all ? It doesn't always drain where you can see it but after some time it can spread/flood to where it can be seen.
 
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Arzgrl21 said:
Thanks for all the responses. We have released the pressure and some of the walls seem to have come back into shape. At this point should we add more water?
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Yes. If you can add water see if the pool will hold the water. The water will support the pool and you get an idea of your situation.
 
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Also still trying to figure out why this happened and where the water went. Water is well below our skimmer and we have a hose going from our skimmer to intake so there would be no way for it to exit that way.
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If that's permanent for winter it's not what should be done as the hose can freeze and break and release water till below the return. The return should be plugged up with a rubber expandable plug.
 
ajw22 said:
Assuming replacement parts can be obtained.
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I think that pool is toast unfortunately,replacing whatever parts are going to cost thousands and piecing together old and new isn’t something I like to recommend.And correct @ajw22 obtaining parts could be a headache.Of course easy for me to say not my money but I rarely recommend doing these type of repairs on above ground pools.
 
Newdude said:
Not to be Captain Obvious or anything, but if it happened in December (?), you would have been fine last August. :)

Has there been any visible wet areas at all ? It doesn't always drain where you can see it but after some time it can spread/flood to where it can be seen.
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No obvious water drainage anywhere. Maybe this is a stupid question but could a hole occurred after we winterized it? Noticed this happening pretty quickly after placing our cover on.
 
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but could a hole occurred after we winterized it?
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Not likely once it was covered but it totally could have happened around or at that time. If it had been raining alot in the weeks before you closed, you may have gained about what you lost and not noticed.
 
98Poolmaster said:
I think that pool is toast unfortunately,replacing whatever parts are going to cost thousands and piecing together old and new isn’t something I like to recommend.And correct @ajw22 obtaining parts could be a headache.Of course easy for me to say not my money but I rarely recommend doing these type of repairs on above ground pools.
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Arzgrl21 said:
Thanks for all the responses. We have released the pressure and some of the walls seem to have come back into shape. At this point should we add more water?
Also still trying to figure out why this happened and where the water went. Water is well below our skimmer and we have a hose going from our skimmer to intake so there would be no way for it to exit that way. If it was a leak why didn’t we have anything al summer? Thanks again everyone.
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Areas that have seemed to released (except the legs)

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We have had our pool for 7 years and have closed it the same each year. The last two years (after getting a new cover) there has been significant water loss over the winter. The water right now is only a 1/4 full from what we can tell. Just noticed walls are also starting to buckle!! We had a new liner put in two years ago and have no water loss during the summer so I find it hard to believe it’s a leak. Why the water loss and is there anything we can do now to prevent further damage? We still have a month or more of winter to get through. Do we put more water in to prevent further buckling? Is the cover causing too much pressure with the ice? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


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Do you know the manufacturer of your pool?If it’s only seven years old parts should still be available,hard to see if it is repairable from pictures sometimes.(It looks like a 33 ft round with 48” walls)Sorry this happened to you I know how frustrating this can be,hopefully it’s something that can be repaired.For any advice or questions this forum is second to none.
 
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That certainly looks better & makes me hopeful that the wall will be ok.
You can send inyopools pictures if you’re not sure of the make & model.

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Uprights & top rails can be anywhere from $30-$100+ each
Not terribly expensive.
If you still have alot of ice in the pool you should wait until it melts to add water. What is the water level now that you have released the cover?
 
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Let us know the size of the pool, the wall height, and add some good pictures of the pool's top caps and we would be happy to identify it and direct you to parts if you decide to go that route.
 
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Areas that have seemed to released (except the legs)

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That looks a lot better.

It looks like the cap on the top of one of the legs popped off. Bad news is when that happens they usually break where they clip together, and will forever keep popping off unless you buy a new one. Good news is they are for the most part cosmetic. I guess they kind of do protect people from the potentially sharp edges under them, but they are not structural. I used to have 4 or 5 broken ones that fell off on a regular basis. I used to find the in the pool on the bottom if it got windy sometimes.

The one bent leg could almost be bent back and reused. The wall system (wall, bottom track and top rail/coping) do the majority of the work containing the water. The legs are there to support the pool when it is empty, and to tie together the top rail and support it. The top rail sits on top of the legs, and slots over the top of the wall, but it is not attached to the wall. It holds it in place, but does not hold it up. I would replace the leg if I could find one, but if not I would be comfortable with a repair. I little body work and that beats right back into shape.
 
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The manufacturer of your pool is Asahi if the top of your caps look like this: 1707346535105.png You may be able to find the uprights and other parts at asahiparts.com. Inyo does not carry parts from that manufacturer. Please add an image or 2 of the top of the caps if that is not correct.
 
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Mdragger88 said:
That certainly looks better & makes me hopeful that the wall will be ok.
You can send inyopools pictures if you’re not sure of the make & model.

- INYOPools.com

secure.inyopools.com secure.inyopools.com
Uprights & top rails can be anywhere from $30-$100+ each
Not terribly expensive.
If you still have alot of ice in the pool you should wait until it melts to add water. What is the water level now that you have released the cover?
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Water level is a little more than 1/4 full but it does have a layer of ice in the pool.
 
You may wanna go hunting for a leak around the current water level. Pay special attention to liner seams & wall seams (where a bolt may have rubbed through).
You do need to get water in the pool but its risky with the ice - you don’t want to risk it slicing anything
 
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