INEXPERIENCED OB Steel wall vinyl liner inground pool under construction in north texas

Yes, I got some guys that came over last saturday to pour the deck :cool:;)... to backfill I used the recommended #57 gravel
Ahhh, ok was thinking that it didnt have time to settle before concrete but with #57 you dont need to wait. I did that with my pool too 100 tons.....
 
Hey guys, I hope everyone has been ok. I have been busy trying to clear the mess I made on my backyard building the pool, so I haven't check the forum for a while......I was hoping someone can maybe help me out figure out the wires that I need for the equipment..........the light was simple....... I simply bought additional ft of the one that the actual light brough......so that is not a problem. I had an electrician add the breaker into my main box. He put a 100amp breaker which he said is what I need it. He told me to get 3 thhwn #1 and 1 thhwn #6 (underground on a conduit) from the box that he put to where my hayward panel is going to be, so we did that......... but yesterday when I go the equipment out of the box (after 5 month stored in my garage :ROFLMAO: I realize the actual machines do not have any wires...:confused:....... what type do I have to get??? I am trying to get a pool guy to go by my house to actually connect the machines and the panel, and want to have the wires needed on hand already............... I think I read that I need 4awg for the heat pump, and 10awg for the pump, but I wasn't sure if it needs to be single strands, or if I need to get 2-3 c wire........... the equipment is going to be right next to the panel.......... any advise would be appreciated. :)
 
Hey guys, I hope everyone has been ok. I have been busy trying to clear the mess I made on my backyard building the pool, so I haven't check the forum for a while......I was hoping someone can maybe help me out figure out the wires that I need for the equipment..........the light was simple....... I simply bought additional ft of the one that the actual light brough......so that is not a problem. I had an electrician add the breaker into my main box. He put a 100amp breaker which he said is what I need it. He told me to get 3 thhwn #1 and 1 thhwn #6 (underground on a conduit) from the box that he put to where my hayward panel is going to be, so we did that......... but yesterday when I go the equipment out of the box (after 5 month stored in my garage :ROFLMAO: I realize the actual machines do not have any wires...:confused:....... what type do I have to get??? I am trying to get a pool guy to go by my house to actually connect the machines and the panel, and want to have the wires needed on hand already............... I think I read that I need 4awg for the heat pump, and 10awg for the pump, but I wasn't sure if it needs to be single strands, or if I need to get 2-3 c wire........... the equipment is going to be right next to the panel.......... any advise would be appreciated. :)
Something seems off here but maybe I missed it. Did you do all the electrical bonding and grounding before you poured the slab?
 
Something seems off here but maybe I missed it. Did you do all the electrical bonding and grounding before you poured the slab?
we did the #8 copper wire all around the walls, the ladder, and the light, and linked to the rebar on the deck, and I have it coming out from the light conduit that goes into the juction box..... (the juction box is not connected yet)........... did I do something wrong :oops: :oops: :oops:
 
we did the #8 copper wire all around the walls, the ladder, and the light, and linked to the rebar on the deck, and I have it coming out from the light conduit that goes into the juction box..... (the juction box is not connected yet)........... did I do something wrong :oops: :oops: :oops:
No, that seems ok, in your progress pics it just went from liner to concrete so I just wanted to double check the bonding wire was put under the concrete. This was just the most important electrical step.

So now you will need conduit from your main panel in the house that connects to the outside panel. A 100 amp breaker usually needs 2 AWG wire, which is thick.
What automation panel do you have? I think 100 amp may be overkill, I wouldn't think you need anymore than 50 amps.


Edit, I think you also need a grounding connection to the plumbing like so:

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Here is a pic of my panel install. The thick wires are the wires that come in from the main panel. Then I have 20 and 15 amp breakers in there. So at minimum you will need ground wire, 12 gauge wire and 14 gauge wire. Id get white for neutral and some other color for hot. It shouldn’t matter if it’s stranded or not however I used stranded. You also want the single wire not romex. They have it in spools at Home Depot.
 
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Here is a pic of my panel install. The thick wires are the wires that come in from the main panel. Then I have 20 and 15 amp breakers in there. So at minimum you will need ground wire, 12 gauge wire and 14 gauge wire. Id get white for neutral and some other color for hot. It shouldn’t matter if it’s stranded or not however I used stranded. You also want the single wire not romex. They have it in spools at Home Depot.
He said he was going to do 100A because we have the heat pump that says 50-60 plus the other equipment......so it was better to do 100A...........thank you for the pictures, it really help......... ... so 12-14 gage wire is enough????
 
He said he was going to do 100A because we have the heat pump that says 50-60 plus the other equipment......so it was better to do 100A...........thank you for the pictures, it really help......... ... so 12-14 gage wire is enough????
Depends on what the breaker is for the heat pump, if its larger than 20 amps then you would need larger gauge wire for that.

Did you run the large wires through the conduit from the house to the pool panel? Do you have that wire? That wire will be expensive, especially if he said to get 1 gauge.
 
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Depends on what the breaker is for the heat pump, if its larger than 20 amps then you would need larger gauge wire for that.

Did you run the large wires through the conduit from the house to the pool panel? Do you have that wire? That wire will be expensive, especially if he said to get 1 gauge.
yes, it was FREAKING EXPENSIVE !!!!!....this afternoon I am going to finish doing that so I can hopefully I can get the pool guy here tomorrow :)....... Also, what do I do with the #8 copper wire that is in the junction box are by the pool??? where do I connect that one???
 
yes, it was FREAKING EXPENSIVE !!!!!....this afternoon I am going to finish doing that so I can hopefully I can get the pool guy here tomorrow :)....... Also, what do I do with the #8 copper wire that is in the junction box are by the pool??? where do I connect that one???
Do you have a pic? Is that the end of the bonding wire from the pool? If so that needs to tie into the plumbing and then there is a connector on the actual pool panel that it needs to tie into.
 

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Do you have a pic? Is that the end of the bonding wire from the pool? If so that needs to tie into the plumbing and then there is a connector on the actual pool panel that it needs to tie into.
I don't have a picture, but yes, it is the one from the pool bonding........so I need to tie it to the plumbing...... I assume that it needs to be under ground in a conduit???
 
I don't have a picture, but yes, it is the one from the pool bonding........so I need to tie it to the plumbing...... I assume that it needs to be under ground in a conduit???
See my pic above the pool panel I posted. It screws into a fitting that connects to one of the plumbing pipes. Then to the panel. You can direct bury ground wire.
 
Hey guys, so I was very excited to finally have my equipment connected yesterday!!… the connected the pump and the filter to start…… and they seem to work!!!! BUT, it seems to me like I don’t have enough pressure on my returns :(…… my water had a lot of sediment on the bottom from the construction, and the guy said I had algae…… the pool guy keeps saying that the reason I have no pressure in the returns is because I didn’t listen to him and I put each return on a separate line instead of all of them in the same line…….. what can I do now??? Do I need to get a bigger pump???? (Lots of money)???? Can I put a small pump in serie or parallel to help with the pressure issue??? (Less money and I don’t waste my expensive current pump)???IMG_0784.jpeg
 
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Sediment and algae will clog a filter real quick. Backwash and check the flow after.

Remember to shut off the pump to change MPV settings.
 
Sediment and algae will clog a filter real quick. Backwash and check the flow after.
even if it doesn't show high pressure in the filter??? (I though I read somewhere that high pressure was the sign of a clogged filter).......... anyway, I will read up on backwashing, and when I get out of work I see if I can figure it out.... Thank you!
 
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With a VS pump it won't show high pressure at lower speeds. Speaking of, what speeds are you running ?
now you are asking things that I should know but I don't :rolleyes: :ROFLMAO::confused::ROFLMAO::confused:...,.. I just know that the guy said that I needed to leave running continuosly (there is a green solid light on it), and to dump 3 gallons of chlorine on it (I did), and to brush the bottom (I did last night and a bit this morning........ plus I added another gallon of chlorine this morning for good measure)...... I will figure out a better answer when I get off work!
 
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ok, when I get home I am going to pull out the fancy test kit that I bough (which I have been itching to try), and will get some numbers..... (as soon as I figure what the little bottle and reactants are :ROFLMAO:
Just do each test one at a time reading the instructions on the card & record the numbers
You can watch the video 1st to help
 

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