Wanting to upgrade my Pentair pump

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JoDa81

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West Fort Worth, Texas
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Chlorine
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I've got a 2.6hp whisperflo model 196241 / WF-30 that runs the main pool pump with one speed, full blast. I've also got a secondary whisperflo model 196240 / WF-28 pump that runs the sheer descent.
I'm getting tired of having a high electric bill and now considering options to swap it out with a variable speed pump. I control the pool with the pentair easytouch pl4/pls4 and screenlogic.

What reasonable options do I have in swapping the main pump out for a variable speed? I use a robot cleaner, and sometimes I'll go back to my pressure side pentair racer, so I don't think I need a bigger pump.
Is there much benefit in looking at used, or am I just playing russian roulette going that route? I'm pretty handy, and would probably swap the pump on my own, I've got a track record of never being popped by 220. I don't think it'll matter, but I've got an in-ground plaster 15,000gal pool.

thanks in advance,
jared
 
81,

Is your current main pool pump connected with pump unions or not?

The IntelliFlo 3 is not a drop in replacement for what you have now.. The Standard IntelliFlo is.

That said, if you are going to have to replumb anyway, I'd look at the IntelliFlo 3 like Allen recommends.

I assume that you do not have an automation system.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Thank you, I do have unions, at both the top side and front of the pump. I don't mind replumbing if needed, that's not scared me away yet. I don't have an automation system per se, however, I do use screenlogic to tie into HomeAssistant and from there I've got automations for much more than just the pool. I imagine I'd want several speed settings for the pump and that's about it. Is there anything I'm missing, or any automations that I just 'have to have'?
 
Jo,

If you have pump unions, then I'd install a new IntelliFlo..


ScreenLogic is not a standalone product.. Are you sure you do not have an EasyTouch or IntelliTouch?

Just to make sure we are all on the same page, show us a few pics of your equipment pad and any boxes that are connected to your pump. Show us your current pump also.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Jimrahbe said:
Jo,

If you have pump unions, then I'd install a new IntelliFlo..


ScreenLogic is not a standalone product.. Are you sure you do not have an EasyTouch or IntelliTouch?

Just to make sure we are all on the same page, show us a few pics of your equipment pad and any boxes that are connected to your pump. Show us your current pump also.

Thanks,

Jim R.
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I do have pump unions, and maybe I wasn't being clear, but I thought I stated that I had the EasyTouch and Screenlogic.
The pump on the left is my 2.6hp, the sheer descent pump is on the right.
I'll look into the Intelliflo VSF and appreciate the recommendation.
 

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Jo,

Perfect. !! You are good to go to install an IntelliFlo VSF..

You will want your new IntelliFlo to have constant AC power.. All you need to do is move the wires going to the pump from the load side of your EasyTouch's pump/filter relay over the the line of the same relay. The you will need to use the com cable that comes with the IntelliFlo and connect the pump to the com port on the main board of the EasyTouch.. Finally, you will need to add speeds to the circuits where you the pump to run.

We can help, once you get ready to install the pump, if you need it.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 

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Not to stir up an old thread, but the wife finally said 'just do it' on the change-out of the pump. I do see that the 011056 has been superseded by the 011075. Is this still a proper recommendation to go with the 011075, or should I be looking at a whisperflo 011533? The difference in HP is 0.4 between the two pumps, and the WEF is 7.1 for intelliflo and 8.4 for the whisperflo vst.

Aside from the flow being adjustable on the intelliflo versus 'set' on the whisperflo, and the slight difference in HP. What are the real-world differences? Since I'm going away from my single speed, I understand it'll be a wiring change, but what else am I missing?

thanks!
 
Jo,

As far as I know, the 011056 has not been superseded by anything...

The 011075 is a different pump. It is the new IntelliFlo3..

The 011056 is same form factor as the original IntelliFlo pumps and comes with a display on the control head. It is controlled by an RS-485 cable when you have any of the major Pentair automation systems...

The IntelliFlo3 has a different front end (pump section).. It has a bigger basket... It comes standard without a display. It can be controlled by an App on your phone, if you are using the pump without an automation system, but can still be controlled by an RS-485 cable if you have an automation system. It does not have the same form factor, so a little plumbing will have to be done so that the pipes line up.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
011075 replacing the 011056 - unless I'm reading this wrong, it looks like the 011056 is discontinued.
If I go with the 011056, it will have the on-board display and RS485 cable necessary for easytouch to operate. I'm seeing the 011075 does NOT have that cable or a display, so I'd have to purchase if I wanted to make adjustments on the pump itself.

On the other hand, if I go with the 011533, it has a display, and I cannot tell if I need to purchase the 356324z RS485 kit, so I'll assume I do unless otherwise.

All 3 pumps look to be a good option, but other than the higher WEF for the 011533, I'm not sure why I'd want either of the two Intelliflos.

Sorry for the back and forth on this, I try to research what I can, but I take advice I get from experienced folks every chance I get. As we're not that far away from each other, I owe you a beer or two for all of the help you've given.
 
JoDa81 said:
I'm seeing the 011075 does NOT have that cable or a display, so I'd have to purchase if I wanted to make adjustments on the pump itself.
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The 011077 is the Intelliflo3 with the display at a lower price then buying the pump and display individually.

The Intelliflo3 does not need a special cable. You can use any 18 gauge 2 wire cable for the RS-485 connection. A Cat5 cable with 2 pairs for each wire also works well.

You can get the 011056 pump from Polytec pools...


as well as the 011077 for $70 more...


JoDa81 said:
All 3 pumps look to be a good option, but other than the higher WEF for the 011533, I'm not sure why I'd want either of the two Intelliflos.
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If you compare the performance curves the Intelloflo3 will be more energy efficient at a given flow rate running less RPMs then the Whisperflo VST. If a bit of energy efficiency does not make a difference to you then the Whisperflo VST should do fine in your pool.

Whisperflo VST...

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Intelliflo3...

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