Pebbletech Tec came and valves are screw-up now

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tstex

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Hello to all,
A tech from pebbletech came to fix the plaster/pebbletech in the spa where it was defective. he did a great job. To fix the spa, he drained the spa into the pool via the pump and changing some valves...as of this minute, my pump is turned off. In spa mode, my spa drains. Things are just not right.

Pls see the enclosed pics and let me know what direction the suction and return Jandy valves [on actuators] need to be in "pool mode". The normal pool mode is where the water comes over the spillway and are also coming out of the pools returns. He did not touch the skimmer/main drains that I am aware.

The pics are as follows:
Pic 1: Return lines [pool return on left by puck holder, spa on the right]
Pics 2: Suction lines [skimmer in middle, pool main drain left, spa on the right]
Pic 3: Better pic of suction side lines

Please tell me where the long part/ jandy handles needs to point in both scenarios and I will go to the actuators and configure where you state in pool mode. Then when placed in Spa Mode, both valves do a 180 and all suction and return lines are 100% spa and no pool or spillover...

Thank you very much and pls advise, tstex
 

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tstex said:
Pls see the enclosed pics and let me know what direction the suction and return Jandy valves [on actuators] need to be in "pool mode". The normal pool mode is where the water comes over the spillway and are also coming out of the pools returns. He did not touch the skimmer/main drains that I am aware.
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You need suction to only be open from the pool and returns to be open to pool and spa.

Those valve handles do not look like Jandy valve handles I am familar with. As it looks in your pic suction is open from pool and return is to pool. Spa is shut off from any water flow in or out.
 
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Allen, Thank you. When the pool was operating properly before, the valves were not ever 90 degrees to the PVC, they were always as they are now, but just in a diff combination.

here's a pretty basic question, and valves are one thing I have not dealt w and I guess now is a perfect time. The top of each valve head as a long plastic handle, then 3 arrows. What direction does the long handle need to be on each side when I Pool Mode, which would mean water is coming over spillway from spa and water is coming out of the pools 6 returns? hope this makes sense - thanks again.

Note: The actuators are Hayward and the valves are Jandy, yes?
 
tstex said:
Note: The actuators are Hayward and the valves are Jandy, yes?
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The handles look like you have Hayward valve and actuator. I am familar with Jandy valve internals. I never looked inside a Hayward valve to know exactly how it should be set.
 
If you turn on your pump as the valves are now I believe your pool skimmers and returns will run and your spa will stay empty. Have you tried that and can confirm?
 
From what I have read it looks like with the Hayward valve for the return to flow to both pool and spa you position the handle so it is opossite the actuator label. The three arrows point to the three pipes into the valve.

With the Hayward valve whichever pipe the handle is over, that does not have an arrow, is the one that is closed.
 
Allen,

I figured out how to get them working thank you very much for your help / I have to run to a meeting now but I'll post back what I did. I do know that both of the long plastic handles point to "pool App's" in pool mode and opposite in Spa mode. It was more from a prior mental image of positions and how they should be stationed...thanks again
 
Maybe you were given Jandy valves with Hayward handles. Very confusing setup you have.
 
These Hayward valves should work the same as Jandy valves. There should be the word “Closed” on the valve handle in front of the center pointer.

The way they are set now, the suction is pulling from the spa and the return is going to the spa.

Put the system in Spa mode and make sure that the valves stay in the same position.

If they move, there’s a little switch on the bottom of the valve to reverse the direction.

Hayward Handle Kit PSXVCA
 
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James,

From memory, you are correct the way the valves were set, but that was while in Pool Mode. While the settings were in Pool Mode, I 180'ed both actuators via the under neath handle, cranked her on and it was running properly whereby water was coming over the spillway into pool from spa and out of the 6 pool returns. I did not try Spa Mode yet, but I'm confident it will work properly, and just as you stated how they were originally set is what they will return to when I set to Soa mode.

It will be dark when I arrive home and prob raining, so I'll ck early am. I appreciate your help...thank you tstex
 
Ahha! I see now what your plumber did. There is a line with a check valve below the return valve. When water is flowing to the pool return that line feeds water also to the spa return.
 
quote from James: "These Hayward valves should work the same as Jandy valves. There should be the word “Closed” on the valve handle in front of the center pointer."

That makes sense bc the flow is always towards the extended handle, opposite as you noted above. It sure seems that the flow would be opposite that and instead of a closed marking, an open would be there...thanks again
 
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