They all fade & get chalky. White is my least favorite, as it just clashes into with the liner.
New build in DeWitt, Arkansas
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Do you think there are pictures missing from the Vinyl liner roundup thread? Some of the posts indicate they attached a pic, but there is no pic showing? Maybe it is my computer
No there are missing pics. Those were hosted on photo bucket and they pulled a fast one and held the pics hostage. They started charging to 3rd part hosting 
We were able to get some of them back but not all.
We were able to get some of them back but not all.
Nectarologist
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- Apr 3, 2015
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- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
Get steel steps and have the liner over them. It's the most seamless look. It's also an upgrade but well worth it imo. Grey steps can blend in to a point but there will be no mistaken that it's plastic-type steps there.
We were planning the vinyl tanning ledge and steps and our ground/water table is not suitable. The risk for floating was too great for us
Hello - We are meeting with our builder Wednesday to finalize everything and sign the dotted line. We are planning an 18x34 play pool 3.5ft - 5.5 ft - 4 ft (wedge bottom center - no flat spot) & I stated I did not want a main drain and was told the law states 2 main drains. I live in Arkansas. Can you help me determine this before we sign? My concerns are the main drains being accessible to kids in such a shallow pool.
Poolguy - We are meeting with our builder Wednesday to finalize everything. We are building the 18x34 play pool 3.5-5.5-4 depths. I requested no main drain and add extra skimmer but was told 2 main drains is required by law. I live in Arkansas. Can you tell me how to verify this? I have searched and searched and have not found this anywhere. Main drains in such shallow water will be accessible to the kids - that is my concern.
See if you can find the rules for you area. What most of them say is IF you have a main drain they must be 2 main drains with Anti-Vortex covers. It can be very confusing if you don't know how to read it.
I have looked and all I could find is for PUBLIC pools as far as main drains. I say call your local code enforcement and ask for the residential rules in writing. Share what you find here.
I agree with you about it not being safe due to stubbed toes and tripping hazards in your pool. I will keep looking!
Kim
I agree with you about it not being safe due to stubbed toes and tripping hazards in your pool. I will keep looking!
Kim
Federal Law does not require a main drain. I would recon your local laws reflect that. As a disclaimer, I am not a swimming pool legal expert and perhaps your PB isn't either and maybe he is mis-interpreting the legislation?
As Kimkat mentions, IF you have a main drain, you are required to have 2 inlets spaced 3 feet apart..... the requirement is a safety issue and part of the Virginia Graeme Baker Act. Section 1406 and 1407 address the issue of entrapment.
https://www.poolsafely.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/pssa.pdf
As Kimkat mentions, IF you have a main drain, you are required to have 2 inlets spaced 3 feet apart..... the requirement is a safety issue and part of the Virginia Graeme Baker Act. Section 1406 and 1407 address the issue of entrapment.
https://www.poolsafely.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/pssa.pdf
C,
If you don't want a main drain because of a safety concern then you are off base... In the old days main drains could be an issue because they had flat covers and there was only one of them... It was possible for someone to cover the opening with their body and get held underwater by the suction..
Today, main drains have two openings that are connected together and the covers are raised. This makes it impossible for anyone to get trapped.. From a safety point of view there are thousands of other things you should be worried about...
That said, main drains add no real advantage to a normal pool.. I have two pools with non-operating main drains and a pool with working main drains.. I can't see any operating differences between the three pools..
If this were my new pool and I was building a gunite pool, I would install the main drains... If I were building a vinyl pool, I would not install main drains...
Thanks for posting,
Jim R.
If you don't want a main drain because of a safety concern then you are off base... In the old days main drains could be an issue because they had flat covers and there was only one of them... It was possible for someone to cover the opening with their body and get held underwater by the suction..
Today, main drains have two openings that are connected together and the covers are raised. This makes it impossible for anyone to get trapped.. From a safety point of view there are thousands of other things you should be worried about...
That said, main drains add no real advantage to a normal pool.. I have two pools with non-operating main drains and a pool with working main drains.. I can't see any operating differences between the three pools..
If this were my new pool and I was building a gunite pool, I would install the main drains... If I were building a vinyl pool, I would not install main drains...
Thanks for posting,
Jim R.
You won’t find it, because it’s not there. A residential drain demand is not in the IRC or other codified standards.
We are building a vinyl pool. Can you elaborate why you would skip the drains on a vinyl but not gunite?
C,
It is really just me.. The less penetrations through the vinyl the better in my mind any way...
Jim R.
It is really just me.. The less penetrations through the vinyl the better in my mind any way...
Jim R.
Chastiti,
I will echo Jim R in that a main drain in a vinyl is just another place that could eventually have a leak.
And that risk is present with a gunite pool too, but with a lesser risk factor.
I will say also, that IMO, there isnt any significant advantage in having a main drain in a gunite pool.
I will echo Jim R in that a main drain in a vinyl is just another place that could eventually have a leak.
And that risk is present with a gunite pool too, but with a lesser risk factor.
I will say also, that IMO, there isnt any significant advantage in having a main drain in a gunite pool.
I'm pretty sure that there is no code anywhere that says that you have to have main drains.
As noted, if you want main drains, you have to have 2 or an "unblockable" main drain.
I would skip the main drain.
I would recommend that you get at least 2 skimmers.
You never want just one suction point.
As noted, if you want main drains, you have to have 2 or an "unblockable" main drain.
I would skip the main drain.
I would recommend that you get at least 2 skimmers.
You never want just one suction point.
Well...We met with our builder and as we were going through the details, we got to the drain and he was 100% ok with me declining the main drains. BUT then my husband asked what he would do, & he said he would get the drains... so, of course, my husband said drains it is
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- May 3, 2014
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- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
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- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Too bad. With your pool design they are not needed and the raised covers will actually be an impediment.
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