White Flakes in Fiberglass Pool

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Jul 15, 2023
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Pride, Louisiana
Pool Size
14772
Surface
Fiberglass
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Jandy Truclear / Ei
Hello! I’m looking for direction on how to rid our pool of what we presume to be calcium flakes. They started showing up around 6/19/24 after salt was added so I first thought the flakes were undissolved salt. I’ve been reading a lot, but unsure of what advice to take as everyone’s pools and water are different, so I figured I’d share my info and see if someone can help.

Our 15k gallon pool is new (first swim was 3/2024), fiberglass, with waterline tile, a Jandy SWG and a Jandy heater/chiller. We used the heater a bit in March and April, not much at all (in South Louisiana), and have used the chiller the past few weeks about two hours a day when the weather was 100F. We also have 3 water features. A 24” sheer and 2 scuppers, which are on 24/7.

I test the water weekly using a K-2006 kit and take the water to our pool store monthly, with perfect results in JUL and AUG. Here are the results from my testing today:

pH: 8
TA: 80
FC: 2
CH: 30
Salt: 3450
CYA: 50

I add 2 cups muriatic acid weekly, it brings pH down to 7.5-7.7 and by the time I test the following week it’s at 8 again. I added 2 cups after today’s test. I also add 4oz metal out weekly. I’ll also be adding stabilizer tomorrow.

Our pool builder, who is also our pool store, said that we shouldn’t worry about the CH with a fiberglass pool, but the booklet from Imagine Pools, where the shell came from, says we should keep CH between 80-120. They also said we can vacuum up the flakes, which we do, but I’d like them to just go away and not come back.

The salt cell is clean with no buildup. We cleaned it last weekend trying to troubleshoot the flake issue and there was a tiny tiny bit of calcium on it, and after hosing it off clean we still get flakes in the pool.

I’ve attached photos of the calcium(?) on the concrete coping/wall behind the sheer and some flakes I scooped out of the pool with the net. Also attached a better view of the pool since the pic of the sheer makes our water look black. I promise it’s crystal clear, but the shell is volcanic black in color :)

I watched a YouTube video where some guy said to add phosphate remover to get rid of the flakes, but then read a thread here where someone said don’t listen to the guy on YouTube that said calcium flakes are caused by phosphates lol. Our phosphates on 8/10 were 4456, another thing our pool builder said we should not worry about.

Would adding a calcium increaser to get to 80 help with the flake issue?

Thanks!

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Your CSI is very negative (-.9). This is corrosive to cement based products like the grouts in the tile line and in the cement/grout holding the stone.

I would add 200ppm CH to the pool now. (EDIT: if confirmed your CH is in fact 30).

You need calcium in the water to prevent etching of the grouts/cements in the tile line and stone wall.

 
Your CSI is very negative (-.9). This is corrosive to cement based products like the grouts in the tile line and in the cement/grout holding the stone.

I would add 200ppm CH to the pool now. (EDIT: if confirmed your CH is in fact 30).

You need calcium in the water to prevent etching of the grouts/cements in the tile line and stone wall.

Thanks so much, I have 8lbs of calcium increaser delivering tomorrow and will start adding.
 
I suspect it is not calcium. Your CH is too low for much to get created in the SWCG.

What you are seeing on the walls is likely effloresence.
 

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I cleaned the efflorescence off the bottom of the wall today! Used 4:1 Muriatic Acid, but it started turning the concrete a red color, so I stopped and lightly scraped it off with a spoon and a jet stream from the hose. Looks a whole lot better.

The flakes were very minimal in the pool today. Not sure how that happened but maybe the Muriatic Acid yesterday and today helped with that. Perhaps keeping pH in a better range, instead of letting it get to 8 before addressing does the trick.

Thanks for all the help last night. I stayed up too late reading all sorts of threads and trying to learn more. And I subscribed to Pool Math today and loaded all my test results over the past 6 months into it. Thanks again!
 
Hi 👋

I previously posted about what we thought were calcium flakes in our pool, but a drop of muriatic acid on them dispelled that thought (thanks to those that helped!). Posting in The Deep End because it’s the closest I could find to My Wits End 😊

I’ve gone through many thoughts of what they could be and now I’m wondering if the flakes could be the powder from our stamped concrete? I collected some, photo below, along with photos showing the fawn color on the cantilever edge, a spot where you can see where it looks like powder chipped off deck and one showing the whole white powdered deck.

In the pool you can put your finger on one and drag it across the fiberglass and it leaves a white streak, which you can then brush away with your hand. Out of the water, when they are dried, they are pretty powdery.

The cement was tinted a fawn color, then they threw white powder all over it before stamping. The white look is not what I was going for but I guess that’s what they do 🤷🏻‍♀️ I don’t hate it, so I guess that’s good. They then sealed it with some sort of sealer.

I’ve noticed some spots where I can see the fawn color. Maybe loose powder where the sealer didn’t adhere well is getting in the pool on our feet or from wind? Flakes are minimal right now, maybe because we haven’t swam since it’s been rainy all week and water is now 82, so no feet going in to possibly bring powder!

Have I figured it out? Anyone else have this issue and find out it’s stamped concrete powder?

Thanks in advance for reading my novel 😊

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Is the concrete coated with something? If it was concrete chips, they would be dissolved by the acid.
 
Is the concrete coated with something? If it was concrete chips, they would be dissolved by the acid.
The concrete is coated with powder then sealer. I don’t think it’s concrete in the pool, I think it’s the powder they threw on the concrete, coated with sealer on one side.
 
The white powder they applied is a releasing agent so that the stamps don’t stick to the concrete and pull it up. It also is used to impart color and texture to concrete finish. The surface is then sealed.

Usually stamped concrete needs so annual maintenance to keep it looking good. The sealant also needs to be reapplied. Over time, concrete that isn’t maintained could begin to flake and spall off. So it’s possible the deck is shedding a bit aakong its way into your pool.

When was the deck finished and how long has it been since it was resealed?
 
2/01/24 - deck poured
2/03/24 - powder hosed off
2/20/24 - 1st coat of sealer
2/21/24 - 2nd coat of sealer

Nothing done to it since then, but it’s only 6 months old. I guess it wouldn’t hurt to reseal it early, especially if it’s the cause of the flakes.
 
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