Another question still..anyone??

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

How cloudy is the pool? As long as you can see the bottom and FC is between min and SLAM level, you're good to swim.

Hopefully is clears up for you...

 

[kimray]

How cloudy is the pool? As long as you can see the bottom and FC is between min and SLAM level, you're good to swim.

Hopefully is clears up for you...

I can see bottom, just ugly. Havent let FC drop yet in case it is algae, dont want to lose any ground.
This is so frustrating

 

[kimray]

Then keep going. Sand filters take the longest to clear, and Intex filters are typically undersized...just will take a while.

Any idea how long? My pump is actually bigger than the pool needs and I was really hoping to be able to use the pool for the holiday. But it’s not really getting any better.
I’ve lost about three ppm of chlorine between 6 AM this morning and about three or 4 o’clock this afternoon so I don’t know if that’s a lot of usage or not. It’s been overcast and cloudy all day so no sun really

 

[PoolStored]

3ppm is normal usage for this time of year. It is not high.

If you can see the bottom of the pool, you can swim.

 

[kimray]

3ppm is normal usage for this time of year. It is not high.

If you can see the bottom of the pool, you can swim.

OK then. But I still need to know how to fix this cloudy water issue. We’re on day 10 of the slam with very little visible results

 

[PoolStored]

You just started slamming on Wednesday. It can take a week or two.
How often are you testing and replacing FC?
Have you passed OCLT? How many nights have you passed?
Likely just need a few of these....

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• PoolStored
• Jun 12, 2023

 

[kimray]

You just started slamming on Wednesday. It can take a week or two.
How often are you testing and replacing FC?
Have you passed OCLT? How many nights have you passed?
Likely just need a few of these....

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• PoolStored
• Jun 12, 2023

Testing and adding chlorine as needed every two hours while I am awake.
I don’t know what OCLT means. Sorry
Lol on the pills. Definitely need alcohol

Also it’s been Wednesday a week ago so 11 days. I’m already at a week and a half with no signs of visible change. Not feeling too optimistic

 

[PoolStored]

Overnight clorine loss test, one of the SLAM criteria. Link-->Overnight Chlorine Loss Test

 

[kimray]

Overnight clorine loss test, one of the SLAM criteria. Link-->Overnight Chlorine Loss Test

Oh OK gotcha. I lost 2 ppm last night overnight. I’ve only checked it one other time because the water is showing no signs of clearing up so I figured what was the point

 

[dereksanders]

Is there any equipment in the pool, such as ladders or steps? If so, you’ll want to remove them, take them apart and clean each individual piece including any screws, nuts, and bolts. You’d be surprised at what you’ll find in the most innocuous of places.

 

[PoolStored]

How often are you backwashing the filter? How do you decide when to backwash.
Sand filters are notorious for taking the longest time, intex/AGP filters tend to be undersized and take even longer.

 

[PoolStored]

If so, you’ll want to remove them, take them apart and clean each individual piece including any screws, nuts, and bolts.

Including inside the ladder, not just outside...you need to scrub them!

 

[kimray]

Is there any equipment in the pool, such as ladders or steps? If so, you’ll want to remove them, take them apart and clean each individual piece including any screws, nuts, and bolts. You’d be surprised at what you’ll find in the most innocuous of places.

Just a plastic ladder that is permanently in the pool because it is attached to a deck. Everything is brand new and just installed about three weeks ago. So no. I don’t think it’s anything like that

 

[PoolStored]

So no. I don’t think it’s anything like that

oh, it likely is. Ask me how I know...below was my ladder. I've helped to clear 1000s of pools here, you have no idea how often it is the ladder. You need to get it out and clean, inside and out.

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• PoolStored
• Aug 2, 2022

 

[kimray]

oh, it likely is. Ask me how I know...below was my ladder. I've helped to clear 1000s of pools here, you have no idea how often it is the ladder. You need to get it out and clean, inside and out.

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• PoolStored
• Aug 2, 2022

There is not one bit of metal on it. It’s completely plastic. There are holes drilled into the legs so that the water is what keeps it weighted down into the pool, so there’s highly chlorinated water inside and out.
It is literally being sanitized by slam level chlorine both inside and out as we speak. I could not sanitize it any better if I did take it out.
Not to mention it’s literally only been in the pool for two weeks. I would have to take it all apart including the deck to get it out and clean it. Everything is brand new. If I have issues with equipment after only two or three weeks, then this whole pool can go to the dump lol.
Now if it was an older ladder or if it had metal on it, then yes I could see how that would be contaminating the water. But that’s not the case here

I’m already to the point of just letting someone come take this pool to the dump, so three weeks after having everything installed brand new I am not at a point where I am looking to drain the pool or start taking it all apart. Not an option

 

[dereksanders]

My issue was the ladder and I attached it to my deck. Unattached it, take it apart where you can, and clean it inside and out while the pool is being cleaned. It literally solved my problem. Mine was in the pool for 2-3 weeks. Cleaned everything but the “clean” ladder and was stymied. Someone here once said ladders are hotels for algae. I think they’re more like communes.

 

[PoolStored]

There is not one bit of metal on it. It’s completely plastic. There are holes drilled into the legs so that the water is what keeps it weighted down into the pool, so there’s highly chlorinated water inside and out. Not to mention it’s literally only been in the pool for two weeks. I would have to take it all apart including the deck to get it out and clean it.

Doesn't matter, metal or plastic. Algae has a biofilm, that is why you need to brush during SLAM to break the biofilm and allow the chlorinated water kill the algae. The biofilm protects it from the chlorine.

You need to scrub inside the ladder to kill the algae.

 

[kimray]

My issue was the ladder and I attached it to my deck. Unattached it, take it apart where you can, and clean it inside and out while the pool is being cleaned. It literally solved my problem. Mine was in the pool for 2-3 weeks. Cleaned everything but the “clean” ladder and was stymied. Someone here once said ladders are hotels for algae. I think they’re more like communes.

I hear you, I do.
But considering that first off the ladder is completely plastic with zero metal, and secondly there are holes drilled in it so that the pool water can flow through the legs and help with the weight, I need somebody to explain to me the science behind how I could possibly clean it anymore than it is being sanitized by being in slam level chlorinated water with that water constantly washing inside of it and over it.

 

[kimray]

I will also say this if it’s relevant. It was getting slightly cloudy on occasion and I could clear it up with a little chlorine addition because it was typically low when that happened. But the first time anybody swam in it which was last weekend, by the time the swimming was done the water was cloudy and it has not cleared up since.
So I guess the pool can be just to look but nobody can swim in it? Lol

 

[PoolStored]

I need somebody to explain to me the science behind how I could possibly clean it anymore than it is being sanitized by being in slam level chlorinated water with that water constantly washing inside of it and over it.

Doesn't matter the surface, once attached, hard to kill unless you brush and break the biofilm.

"Biofilm is a substance that forms readily in water distribution lines, water storage tanks, and any other aqueous environment. A Biofilm forms when bacteria begin to excrete a slimy, sticky substance that allows them to adhere to surfaces. The biofilm mass usually consists of many species of bacteria, and can also include fungi, algae, and protozoa. Biofilm is resistant to chlorine and is difficult to remove once initial adhesion occurs.i The biofilm slime shelters disease-causing microorganisms, protecting them from chlorine disinfection."

Source: https://www.howelllabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Biofilm_Removal_Synopsis.pdf

Biofilm Basics - Center for Biofilm Engineering | Montana State University

Information about the basics of biofilms

www.biofilm.montana.edu

But the first time anybody swam in it which was last weekend, by the time the swimming was done the water was cloudy and it has not cleared up since.
So I guess the pool can be just to look but nobody can swim in it? Lol

This is typical when your FC demand is higher that the FC in the pool and you get below minimums. You need to maintain the proper FC for your CYA. Always follow this..Link-->FC/CYA Levels

If you are going to have a lot of swimmers, your FC gets used up faster. You can raise your FC before and during the swim session, so your FC stays in range (link above). If you stay in range and away from minimums, your pool will not get algae and cloud.