Pool Pump broke

[tclproductions]

Hi there,

My Pool pump is making a steady humming sound when it tries to start. I swapped out the capacitor same result. My feeling is its the motor. It's an old pool pump that came with the house that I bought 11 years ago. Purex Triton Whipserflow.

I could replace the motor (and maybe that's the quickest and cheapest version) in this or move to a variable speed pump at this point. What do you think? I wold love to save money on the electric bill which really adds up in the summer.

Is it worth it though?

How do I determine which pump to get? I am going to upload some photos of the current one.

I have done some general plumbing work around the house and am generally handy. Can I install this myself?

Thanks for any help!

 

[1poolman1]

Hi there,

My Pool pump is making a steady humming sound when it tries to start. I swapped out the capacitor same result. My feeling is its the motor. It's an old pool pump that came with the house that I bought 11 years ago. Purex Triton Whipserflow.

I could replace the motor (and maybe that's the quickest and cheapest version) in this or move to a variable speed pump at this point. What do you think? I wold love to save money on the electric bill which really adds up in the summer.

Is it worth it though?

How do I determine which pump to get? I am going to upload some photos of the current one.

I have done some general plumbing work around the house and am generally handy. Can I install this myself?

Thanks for any help!

If the wet-end is good (everything except the motor), you can bolt on a Nidec Neptune NPTQ 165 variable speed motor. You would need a new shaft seal (PS-1000), diffuser O ring and a body gasket. Your existing timer would no longer be used. They have built-in timers and clock.
Your existing motor was using +/- 1.7kw per hour ($.55/hr). With the proper settings that new motor could use about a tenth of that.
Set it up for very long, slow filter runs and you would save significant energy

 

[tclproductions]

That sounds great as the wet end seems fine. Thank you. Can the built in timer be overwritten? I am using an Insteon controller via home automation to the power of the pump. I could just skip that too of course and use the built in one.
How difficult of an installation is that?

 

[tclproductions]

Amazon.com

Does that cover all I would need alongside the motor itself?

 

[1poolman1]

Amazon.com

Does that cover all I would need alongside the motor itself?

Correct kit. Not sure if the Neptune motor can be used that way. The Century V-Green EVO (ECM 16SQU for your pump) can be used with a separate time clock like you have. The programming options are limited to the ones built into the onboard control, but you would likely find one that meets your needs.

 

[tclproductions]

Thank you so much for your help.
I could simply bypass my control and leave it always on. At some point that load controller will bust anyways and they are hard to find/replace.
What's the advantage of the Neptune over the Century V-Green? Same kit for the Century V Green?

 

[tclproductions]

Just ordered the Century V green with a kit for my pump! thank you - wish me luck...

 

[1poolman1]

Thank you so much for your help.
I could simply bypass my control and leave it always on. At some point that load controller will bust anyways and they are hard to find/replace.
What's the advantage of the Neptune over the Century V-Green? Same kit for the Century V Green?

Sorry to get back this late. Was actually installing a Neptune on another pool. The Century motor is a good motor. You should become familiar with the manual (attached) and then watch the videos on Century's website on using a time clock with a V-Green. They will reference a V-Green 165, but the principals work for your motor.

 

[tclproductions]

Thank you! I got it all installed expect the electric. My issue is I have 2 black wires and 1 green. How do I figure out which one of the 2 black wires is phase 1 and phase 2? I have a multimeter.

 

[1poolman1]

Thank you! I got it all installed expect the electric. My issue is I have 2 black wires and 1 green. How do I figure out which one of the 2 black wires is phase 1 and phase 2? I have a multimeter.

Doesn't matter.

 

[tclproductions]

Thank you for your help!! I am up and running!!
Now I gotta figure out the programming and how to optimize the lowest speed

 

[tclproductions]

So now that I have the new awesome motor I am trying to figure out how to use low flow to get the same results as before. Is there a way to calculate it. I used to run the old pump for 6hrs. So at 3450.

This new motor is extremely silent at 1600. And below 1600 I can’t hear it at all which is so nice.

Any suggestions what kind of schedule makes sense?

 

[mknauss]

Run the pump for a reason. It appears you add liquid chlorine each day for chlorination, so be sure the pump is running for a while after adding that.
Otherwise, it is all about skimming. Find the rpm needed to skim the surface. Set the pump at 100 rpm or so above that level. Run the pump for 6 hours and see if that keeps the pool skimmed and clean. If not, run it longer. Or shorter. Whatever the pool needs.