Pentair Screen Logic Schedule / Egg Timer Help

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I have a pool with a built in hot tub in Denver Colorado. We keep in open year round. To prevent freezing, last winter the pool builder set a schedule that would run the pool for 3.5 hours and then run the spa for 30 mins. I am trying to set up the same for this winter.

I believe when the egg timer for pool/spa is set to don't stop it was ignoring my schedule and just running the pool or spa without stopping. When I set the schedule to 23hr 45 mins it runs the schedule but turns both off after 23hr 45 mins.

I'm sure there is something I am doing incorrectly. Any help is appreciated
 
I always turn to @Jimrahbe with questions like that. But he'll need you to fill in your signature in order to give you the best answer possible, especially what type of automation controller you have, and the number of relays (EasyTouch 4 or EasyTouch 8, for example).

Try this link:

I signature similar to mine is especially helpful to our experts and guides.
 
Set the Egg Timers to 12 hours. That is the default such that the schedule is followed.

Show us a screenshot of your Screenlogic Schedules screen.
 
Your schedule will not achieve what you stated in the first post. The Spa mode schedule (assuming it is a higher pump rpm setting than the Pool Mode), will be the only thing to run.

For what you stated in post 1, you need to set the Pool Mode to run 24 hours per day. At a lower pump RPM than the SPA mode.
Then you will need a separate schedule for each period you want it to switch to SPA mode at a higher pump RPM than the Pool Mode.
 
How does the SPA jet pump work into this?

Do you have an Intellicenter? The screenshot is not similar to my ScreenLogic screen.
 
303,

An EasyTouch can only have a max of 12 schedules and that includes any egg-timers. You currently have 17!!!

The problem is that ScreenLogic will allow you to enter a bazillion schedules, but anything over 12 will just not work.

Tell me about last year. Is your heater on the entire time or when? I assume you do this because you want to use the spa. If that is true, what do you do (button wise) to use the spa?

I'm just trying to figure out how it worked before so we can make it do the same again this year.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Let's see if I can answer to the best of my ability

Not sure I remember how it was set last winter. I do know at one point the automation was justing managing the process through built in pentair freeze protection which might be the easiest option, but at some point builder turn off and switched to schedules similar to what I just set.

We do use the Spa in the winter and was told it's pretty difficult to winterize pool and not spa. Not sure how I would keep pool from freezing and snow weight off cover so we just run it year round. Expensive but not terrible.

All I have is the phone interface and small readout on equipment.

The Jet Pump I am hoping to get plumbed to pool with ball valve and check valve so water circulate when pool is running. Hard to find someone a the moment to do this work.

Not sure how to set the pool to run 24/7 other then setting egg timer to "Don't Stop". If I do that and then add a few set a schedules for the Spa will the schedule override the don't stop part of the egg timer?
 
303,

Does your spa spillover into the pool when in the pool mode?

Do you remember if you had to do anything before using the spa? Did you just get in or did you have to change anything button wise?

Thanks,

Jim R.
 

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mknauss said:
Do you have an Intellicenter? The screenshot is not similar to my ScreenLogic screen.
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Marty, those are screenshots from ScreenLogic running on a smart phone.
mknauss said:
Do you have an Intellicenter?
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@Jfish303, is it a state secret? As I mentioned, you'll get more meaningful help if you tell us what automation controller you have, including the model, so we can determine how many programming schedules are available. And yes:
Jfish303 said:
I do know at one point the automation was justing managing the process through built in pentair freeze protection which might be the easiest option, but at some point builder turn off and switched to schedules similar to what I just set.
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That's probably the way to go. Depending on what controller you have, it'll do all the freeze protection and valve switching (between pool and spa) without using up any schedules at all. Mine works that way, anyway. And builders have been known to install equipment they have no idea how to use or program, so you can't necessarily go by whatever he did for you once. Let Marty and Jim help you with all that, because they do know.

And if you've got an IntelliFlo, hiding behind your filter in your pic, that has built-in freeze protection, too, that will run the pump when its below 35° no matter what you schedule. But that won't protect your other plumbing circuit. Again, depending on what controller you have, its freeze protection can run that 2nd pump, too. All without scheduling anything.

Then you can have plenty of schedules and egg timers to use to heat up your spa, or run your spillway, or turn off your lights for you, or whatever else you want to do.
 
No secrets I'm just so new to this I'm not totally sure what you are asking. I'll attach a picture of the panel.

The spa spills over into the pool when in pool mode, but the spa return only captures some of the pipes in the spa so I think it needs to go in spa mode to get the rest. You have to hit the button on the app to turn on the spa.

Sorry if there is anything I missed.
 
303,

Try this..

Schedule your Pool Circuit to run 8 am until 8 am. This will turn it on 24/7. But it should shut off whenever Spa is on..

Schedule your Spa Circuit to run for X minutes 6 times a day.

If you do this your freeze protect needs to be turned off. Because it will switch between the Pool and Spa every 15 minutes.

Try that and tell me how it works.

If you want the heater to run you will have to set up a temperature. See the following just as a reference.


Schedules1.JPG

Schedules1.JPG



Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Thanks I will give this a try and report back.

I assume a schedule will always override the egg timer and I can leave those at default of 12hrs or does pool need to be don't stop?
 
303,

Egg timers are for things that you manually turn on. You turn it on, and it will then automatically shut off after the egg timer times out. I have one on my fill line to the pool. I can't schedule it, as I never know when the pool will need water. So, I manually turn it on, and it automatically shuts off an hour later.

If you have a circuit scheduled to run for, say 14 hours. It should not shut off when the default 12-hour egg timer times out, it should run until the schedule shuts it off at the end of the 14 hours. This can get confusing sometimes, as people will often screw with a manual button and make the system think a scheduled circuit is a manual circuit. As a general rule... if a circuit is scheduled, don't manually turn it on without realizing that its schedule may or may not run as expected. It really just depends on when the manual action takes place.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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Got it. That makes sense.

Basically if the Spa is turned on manually if follows the egg timer. Once it reaches the timer limit it turns off and returns to schedule sounds like how it should work
 
Jimrahbe said:
303,

Try this..

Schedule your Pool Circuit to run 8 am until 8 am. This will turn it on 24/7. But it should shut off whenever Spa is on..

Schedule your Spa Circuit to run for X minutes 6 times a day.

If you do this your freeze protect needs to be turned off. Because it will switch between the Pool and Spa every 15 minutes.

Try that and tell me how it works.

If you want the heater to run you will have to set up a temperature. See the following just as a reference.


Schedules1.JPG

Schedules1.JPG



Thanks,

Jim R.
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This didn't work. It just stayed on the pool school and ignored the spa schedules
 

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