Hello we finally with the help of you guys installed out ic40. One thing we noticed is that the PB has 2 speeds setup one for 1500 at night and one for a couple of hours at 2500. When these schedules run it does not turn on the relay for pump to turn on SWG.
Intellicenter with IC40 and Intelliflo
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I know this one! I had the same issue. See the responses in the linked thread. Run IC40 without "filter pump" pressed on Easytouch.
Tldr, if its wired correctly, you need to use the filter button. This should be the lowest rpm setting then build you schedule from there.
Tldr, if its wired correctly, you need to use the filter button. This should be the lowest rpm setting then build you schedule from there.
J,
You should almost never need to use the Filter button. Why have an automation system if you have to turn things on and off manually?
That said, if pushing the Filter Button turns on the SWCG, it means your builder is an idiot and has no clue how to program the IntelliCenter.
When correctly wired to the load side of the Pump/Filter relay, the SWCG will only turn on when in the Pool mode or Spa mode. This is because the Pump/Filter relay only turns on when the pump is running, and the system is in the Pool or Spa mode. (or you manually push the "F" button)
My guess is you have a schedule that looks like this.. (Just using made up numbers, and Circuit names...)
Pool is schedule for 8 am until 10 am - SWCG will only run during this time.
High speed is scheduled from 10 am until 11 am
Cleaner is scheduled from 11 am until 12 pm.
Your schedule should look like this..
Pool is scheduled for 8 am until 12 pm - SWCG will run the entire time
High speed is scheduled from 10 am until 11 am
Cleaner is schedule from 11 am until 12 pm.
Show me some screen shots of your schedules.
Thanks,
Jim R.
You should almost never need to use the Filter button. Why have an automation system if you have to turn things on and off manually?
That said, if pushing the Filter Button turns on the SWCG, it means your builder is an idiot and has no clue how to program the IntelliCenter.
When correctly wired to the load side of the Pump/Filter relay, the SWCG will only turn on when in the Pool mode or Spa mode. This is because the Pump/Filter relay only turns on when the pump is running, and the system is in the Pool or Spa mode. (or you manually push the "F" button)
My guess is you have a schedule that looks like this.. (Just using made up numbers, and Circuit names...)
Pool is schedule for 8 am until 10 am - SWCG will only run during this time.
High speed is scheduled from 10 am until 11 am
Cleaner is scheduled from 11 am until 12 pm.
Your schedule should look like this..
Pool is scheduled for 8 am until 12 pm - SWCG will run the entire time
High speed is scheduled from 10 am until 11 am
Cleaner is schedule from 11 am until 12 pm.
Show me some screen shots of your schedules.
Thanks,
Jim R.
The filter button and the "pool" circuit are the same for me between my easy touch and my app. They both trigger the relay for my pump. Other circuits or features do not. If that relay isn't triggered, then my salt cell wont turn on as my cell is wired to the load side. My pump is wired to the line side and can and is able to be controlled without turning on the relay and turning on the salt cell. I am assuming his is a similar set up where that relay needs the be triggered to turn on the cell so the pool circuit (aka filter circuit on the et) needs to be on to get everything to work. Unless i am missing something.
that is correct I do have swg connected to load side of relay and pump on line side.
Jims instructions are correct. The pool circuit needs to be the base so the swcg comes on. Add everything else on top of that.
J,
Your schedules are the problem.. There is only one "Pool" circuit and one "Spa" circuit You can name Circuits anything you want, but naming it "Pool 1500" does nothing to turn on the Pool circuit. It is just a name. Just like my name Jim, does not tell you what I do, the name "Pool 1500" does not put the system into the Pool mode.
Here is what you need to do.. I assume you want the pump and SWCG to run for 10 hours, 8 pm until 10 am..
Step 1 - Set the speed for the "Pool Circuit" to 1500 RPM. (It is now 3000 RPM)
Step 2. Schedule "Pool" to run 8 PM until 10 am.
Step 3. Rename "Pool1500 to Pool3000" Use whatever speed you want and schedule whenever you want.
Step 4. Schedule "Pool2500" whenever you want.
When the pump sees two or more speed requests, it will always run the fastest one.
The above schedule will keep your cell running anytime the pump is running.
When you turn on Pool 2500 or Pool 3000, the pump will ramp up to that speed as scheduled.
Please let me know if this does not make sense...
Thanks,
Jim R.
Your schedules are the problem.. There is only one "Pool" circuit and one "Spa" circuit You can name Circuits anything you want, but naming it "Pool 1500" does nothing to turn on the Pool circuit. It is just a name. Just like my name Jim, does not tell you what I do, the name "Pool 1500" does not put the system into the Pool mode.
Here is what you need to do.. I assume you want the pump and SWCG to run for 10 hours, 8 pm until 10 am..
Step 1 - Set the speed for the "Pool Circuit" to 1500 RPM. (It is now 3000 RPM)
Step 2. Schedule "Pool" to run 8 PM until 10 am.
Step 3. Rename "Pool1500 to Pool3000" Use whatever speed you want and schedule whenever you want.
Step 4. Schedule "Pool2500" whenever you want.
When the pump sees two or more speed requests, it will always run the fastest one.
The above schedule will keep your cell running anytime the pump is running.
When you turn on Pool 2500 or Pool 3000, the pump will ramp up to that speed as scheduled.
Please let me know if this does not make sense...
Thanks,
Jim R.
I think I got it. That makes total sense. Here is my new settings. As always thank you all so much!!
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That should do it. Im not going to lie, im jealous of how pentair built the iphone app. The one for android feels unfinished at best.
J,
That will work..
Just to make sure we are both on the same page...
When Pool3000 comes on, it will cause the pump to run at 3000 RPM, nothing else should happen..
When Pool2500 comes on, it will cause the pump to run at 2500 RPM, and since you have the Circuit's Function set to Spillway, the Return valve will move directing all the return water to the spa, causing a pretty big spillover into the pool.
Is this what you wanted or expected?
There is nothing magic about any of those number or scheduled times.. You can adjust the speeds, and times to what makes sense to you and how you want your pool to run.
One thing you need to double check. We set the Pool Circuit to 1500 RPM. I "assume" this is fast enough to turn the flow switch on your SWCG on. Depending on your plumbing, it may not be. If the flow light is red on your cell, then you need to increase the speed to whatever turns it green, plus another 100 RPM, just to make sure it stays green.
And... since your SWCG should now work 10 hours a day, you need to test your FC, and determine what the right SWCG output % should be, to keep your chlorine level steady.
Thanks,
Jim R.
That will work..
Just to make sure we are both on the same page...
When Pool3000 comes on, it will cause the pump to run at 3000 RPM, nothing else should happen..
When Pool2500 comes on, it will cause the pump to run at 2500 RPM, and since you have the Circuit's Function set to Spillway, the Return valve will move directing all the return water to the spa, causing a pretty big spillover into the pool.
Is this what you wanted or expected?
There is nothing magic about any of those number or scheduled times.. You can adjust the speeds, and times to what makes sense to you and how you want your pool to run.
One thing you need to double check. We set the Pool Circuit to 1500 RPM. I "assume" this is fast enough to turn the flow switch on your SWCG on. Depending on your plumbing, it may not be. If the flow light is red on your cell, then you need to increase the speed to whatever turns it green, plus another 100 RPM, just to make sure it stays green.
And... since your SWCG should now work 10 hours a day, you need to test your FC, and determine what the right SWCG output % should be, to keep your chlorine level steady.
Thanks,
Jim R.
Thank you. I’ll wait until 8 and see how it goes. That funny because I was looking at Jim’s screenshots and was thinking how much better the intellitouch looked.
Thank you so much for all the info. You are right it need about 2000rpm to turn flow light to green. I adjusted it. I have a 20k gallon pool with an ic40 set at 50%. I’ll check it over the next few days and see how it goes. My alkalinity is low but everything else looks in line as of today. This will be the first time turning it on so I’m hoping for the best.J,
That will work..
Just to make sure we are both on the same page...
When Pool3000 comes on, it will cause the pump to run at 3000 RPM, nothing else should happen..
When Pool2500 comes on, it will cause the pump to run at 2500 RPM, and since you have the Circuit's Function set to Spillway, the Return valve will move directing all the return water to the spa, causing a pretty big spillover into the pool.
Is this what you wanted or expected?
There is nothing magic about any of those number or scheduled times.. You can adjust the speeds, and times to what makes sense to you and how you want your pool to run.
One thing you need to double check. We set the Pool Circuit to 1500 RPM. I "assume" this is fast enough to turn the flow switch on your SWCG on. Depending on your plumbing, it may not be. If the flow light is red on your cell, then you need to increase the speed to whatever turns it green, plus another 100 RPM, just to make sure it stays green.
And... since your SWCG should now work 10 hours a day, you need to test your FC, and determine what the right SWCG output % should be, to keep your chlorine level steady.
Thanks,
Jim R.
Hello have another question please. What should we do when we run the heater. I assume that will also run the swg for the 6 or so extra hours the pool would not normally run. Do I need to manually turn down the output percentage or what other options do I have. Also what should the chlorine level be at? Thanks again.
J,
If you are running heater for the Spa, the EasyTouch has two SWCG outputs, one for the Pool and one for the Spa.
If you are heating the pool, I really doubt it will make much difference, unless you run it many days in a row.
You can certainly turn the SWCG output down, or off, if you want.
Keeping your FC at your target or higher is never an issue. I almost all ways run on the high side of my FC target..
Thanks,
Jim R.
If you are running heater for the Spa, the EasyTouch has two SWCG outputs, one for the Pool and one for the Spa.
If you are heating the pool, I really doubt it will make much difference, unless you run it many days in a row.
You can certainly turn the SWCG output down, or off, if you want.
Keeping your FC at your target or higher is never an issue. I almost all ways run on the high side of my FC target..
Thanks,
Jim R.