Goodyear, AZ (EMR) O/B Pool Deliberations - UPDATE - Pool is Filled!

[Nikilyn]

I like it! Looks a lot like ours but without a spa. We have a bench on the other side. Our last pool was basically this same design but without a spa. We didn’t have a bench on that side and I didn’t like not having somewhere to sit when I swam over there. It was a must in this one.

That poor girl in the video sure is working hard not to go anywhere .

 

[thewolf56]

Thanks, Niki. The lack of seating seemed to be a regret many had with pools, so trying to avoid that for sure.

That poor girl in the video sure is working hard not to go anywhere .

Funny, my 7-year old daughter mentioned that also. I told her that she needs to work on her form

Other than the additional bench, I would like any other feedback anyone could provide. I'll be making sure the step/edge tiles are 1x1 glass.

Should I be concerned with planters that close to the pool? I think it looks good, but I do know that there are some plants whose roots would cause problems.

What about light placement? His standard is globrites, but we will be using microbrites, so want to make sure that the placement will be adequate without being glaring to the house or seating areas.

I know some of these questions are difficult to answer without the standard design/construction sketches, but I want to have most of this items reviewed before our next meeting and this group is much more knowledgeable and experienced than I am with design and functionality.

 

[setsailsoon]

56,

We just finished preliminary design with DIY pools (another designer that works with OB pool builders). I didn't get a video but did get some nice 3d renderings using the floor plan? Do you have your subcontracting plan yet. One of the items I'm wondering about is the screen enclosure footing. It seems most builders say to include that with the paving subcontractor. I'm just wondering how that works with the screen contractor. If they don't do their own beam installation how would that affect their warranty? Screen enclosures in Florida have a pretty beefed up beam (my last was 16" deep 12" wide with 4 pieces of rebar through the whole thing).

Chris

 

[Nikilyn]

I personally like to have deck all the way around, especially above a bench. That’s where kids will want to get out. Kids run around the pool and play games and jump in wherever they can. I don’t want a palm tree in the way. But, that’s just personal opinion. Just try to imagine your family using the pool and what you think will work. Don't forget to imagine your kids as teenagers too, if they aren’t already.

 

[thewolf56]

56,

We just finished preliminary design with DIY pools (another designer that works with OB pool builders). I didn't get a video but did get some nice 3d renderings using the floor plan? Do you have your subcontracting plan yet. One of the items I'm wondering about is the screen enclosure footing. It seems most builders say to include that with the paving subcontractor. I'm just wondering how that works with the screen contractor. If they don't do their own beam installation how would that affect their warranty? Screen enclosures in Florida have a pretty beefed up beam (my last was 16" deep 12" wide with 4 pieces of rebar through the whole thing).

Chris

Hello Chris,

I do not have my subcontracting plan, yet. This was just the first design from them for me to review to ensure that we are going in the right direction. I'll be getting other 3D renderings and construction drawings once we settle on a plan. As it is, out here, some cities do not even require a permit for gazebos if the roof area is under a certain size. I actually reached out to my city to see what the requirements are regarding smaller size gazebos, footers, and setbacks. We do get some bad wind with the monsoons out here (about 3 years ago, two different storm systems collided and ended up doing considerable damage to the area), so I would imagine that my city has some sort of footer requirement even on small structures. They should get back to me pretty quickly as they had been helpful with other questions in the past.

Sorry I can't be of any help. Those are all very good questions/concerns and bring up some items for me to consider.

 

[chiefwej]

We pushed our pool back a bit on our lot in order to have more usable pool deck on the house side of the pool. No one has ever complained about having too much deck.

 

[thewolf56]

I personally like to have deck all the way around, especially above a bench. That’s where kids will want to get out. Kids run around the pool and play games and jump in wherever they can. I don’t want a palm tree in the way. But, that’s just personal opinion. Just try to imagine your family using the pool and what you think will work. Don't forget to imagine your kids as teenagers too, if they aren’t already.

Thanks, Niki,

You brought up a really good point. One thing that needs to change is that the only exit to get back to the waterslide is really at the baja ledge, which is just too far. Also, we don't really have a jumping point into the "deep" end. We have a few ideas and we'll discuss them with the consultant at our next meeting to see how they can be remedied.

 

[thewolf56]

We pushed our pool back a bit on our lot in order to have more usable pool deck on the house side of the pool. No one has ever complained about having too much deck.

We had originally wanted to push the pool up to the 5' minimum setback to the property line. My trial design had it that way and a design we received from a PB company had it that way as we requested in order to maximize the deck size. But if we did that, it was mentioned that we would have a straight line of sight from the pool to the A/C units and the pool equipment. Personally, I'd love to shrink the turf even smaller for more deck off of the covered patio (my last house had a very large covered patio), but my wife wants more turf, so we are going with more turf.

 

[kimkats]

I like most of what I see. The two major things I would change are these two:
-see the rocks and plants to the left of the slide as you look at it? I would remove all of that and put the bench all the way to over there. That will give everyone a place to get out to do the slide again.
-the rocks and plants by the pool and shelf I would do away with. They could block the sight view from the house and sitting area into the pool and shelf.

I LOVE the swim lane you made from one end to the other.

Kim

 

[Nikilyn]

We had originally wanted to push the pool up to the 5' minimum setback to the property line. My trial design had it that way and a design we received from a PB company had it that way as we requested in order to maximize the deck size. But if we did that, it was mentioned that we would have a straight line of sight from the pool to the A/C units and the pool equipment. Personally, I'd love to shrink the turf even smaller for more deck off of the covered patio (my last house had a very large covered patio), but my wife wants more turf, so we are going with more turf.

Put something to block the equipment. You could do a short block wall or a trellis or a bush. You can see ours and we really don’t pay any attention to it. Maximizing the deck is a way bigger deal.

 

[thewolf56]

I like most of what I see. The two major things I would change are these two:
-see the rocks and plants to the left of the slide as you look at it? I would remove all of that and put the bench all the way to over there. That will give everyone a place to get out to do the slide again.
-the rocks and plants by the pool and shelf I would do away with. They could block the sight view from the house and sitting area into the pool and shelf.

I LOVE the swim lane you made from one end to the other.

Kim

Thanks, Kim,

The swim lane was something I took into consideration in my design requirements after reading the advice here. Also looking at 3.5 or 4 foot water depth for shallow end (once again, thanks to TFP for making sure that the depth is defined as either pool or water depth).

My wife really loves the plants near the water after seeing it. We will definitely need some modifications to the plan to incorporate the changes she wants, so we will see what happens. I'm already concerned about view lines with the grotto, and I know that the sight line was one of the concerns of having a raised spa between the house and pool that has been brought to light here quite a few times

p.s. I also made the mistake of showing my wife lightstream tile for the step lines, so now I think I will need to do some research for something that is similar in the shiny department. Don't think we'll be going that route for the waterline tile, but we'll see. She also wants turtle mosaics to add to the pool.

 

[thewolf56]

Put something to block the equipment. You could do a short block wall or a trellis or a bush. You can see ours and we really don’t pay any attention to it. Maximizing the deck is a way bigger deal.

I had thought about a pony wall, but it would be right next to the A/C. My wife now likes the look of it also, so we'll see what we can work out after giving the designer our feedback. It's been a real struggle to try and fit in the main items that we wanted in a backyard (I honestly did not think there would be a good way to fit a gazebo and turf with the pool my family wants), but I think many have that same constraint.

 

[Nikilyn]

My step tile has similar iridescece to lightstream tile. I love it. One direction or looks just like greens and blues and the other direction you see pinks and golds and other colors. It was WAY cheaper too. We also have a turtle .

 

[Oswald]

My step tile has similar iridescece to lightstream tile. I love it. One direction or looks just like greens and blues and the other direction you see pinks and golds and other colors. It was WAY cheaper too. We also have a turtle .
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Is the Mickey icon tile as well?

 

[Nikilyn]

Is the Mickey icon tile as well?

It is . We have 2 of them. I call the other one my hidden Mickey because it’s smaller and on the bench in the deep end.

 

[Oswald]

It is . We have 2 of them. I call the other one my hidden Mickey because it’s smaller and on the bench in the deep end.

I love it!

 

[thewolf56]

My step tile has similar iridescece to lightstream tile. I love it. One direction or looks just like greens and blues and the other direction you see pinks and golds and other colors. It was WAY cheaper too. We also have a turtle .

Love the tile! I might have to copy you when it comes time to choose.

How deep is the water on your baja ledge? That's one of the items we're not sure of yet (currently set at 18" water depth). My father-in-law's pool has an 18" water depth baja ledge and it was about perfect for my oldest when she was 2.5. We want our youngest to be able to play on it (she'll be a little over 3 when this is finished (hopefully)), but we also want to be able to sit comfortably in the water (a little) either in a chair or lounge.

 

[Nikilyn]

Feel free to copy away . Someone else on here from Gilbert liked my waterline tile and got that.
Our Baja step is 15". Our last one was 18". While it was great for my son to play in, it was a tad too deep to sit in. I like this depth. We have the plastic Adirondack chairs from Lowe's and I think they work great on there. My bum is in the water and I put my feet on a pool noodle. And sitting on the edge of the step the water hits me just right.

 

[Nikilyn]

This is the tile we used. You wouldn't be able to tell there's any color to it from this picture. I highly suggest getting samples.

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[HermanTX]

The figure 8 design is great and with the added circular sun shelf makes it very appealing.
If you go with a 15" water depth on the sun shelf please ensure you have a small step to enter as others have done. If you add 5" from water level to top of coping that becomes a 20inch step which is a bit much for both small children and older folks.
Overall very nice backyard paradise.