Rooftop Infinity Edge Build

The walls are specified at 200 mm, which is 7.874 inches. In my opinion that's likely not enough.

The support has to be super strong to hold the weight without shifting or sagging.

The concrete strength should be specified as well with a preference for high strength, high performance concrete.
200 thick walls will be fine for a 900mm deep pool (3 ft)
Mine is 2100 deep (7ft), self supporting with 200mm thick walls (but I have 2 layers of reo), but the upload documents are contradicting. One specifies 200mm thick, the other 150mm

My concern is for the rest of the structure holding up the weight of the pool
Unless there are substantial masonry walls supporting that pool, this isnt going to end well.

And here I am thinking I was ambitious with my pool build :eek:

Edit: We almost bought another lot where I was going to still build a 25m lap pool but it was going to be cantilevered out over a gully, some 15-20ft above the ground...
 
Love the concept of this build, I bet there are some awesome views from up there.

Our pool has 200mm walls up to 1000mm above ground with 1800H of concrete reinforced block wall on top.
 
The pool will be on technically the 4th level of the structure and is 33 feet by 13.9 feet and 4.9 feet deep.
The diagram says 900.

Is that 900mm?

900mm is 35 inches.

Maybe there's some confusion about the measurements?

Maybe there's a mixup due to some people using standard US measurements and others using metric?

Probably need to get this figured out before they build the pool.
 
I really appreciate all the objective inputs shared. I hope to answer as many of the questions posed as I can, however some such as where the property is located I cannot share unfortunately, at least not now.

From the diminutive engineering knowledge that I possess I cannot provide any useful response to questions posed on the structural aspect of the build. My objective here is to learn about the pool part.

The structural engineer and the architect took into account many factors, including the max number of people that could possibly fit on the deck and pool, not only the weight of water. The explanation I received is that the pool is solely on primary beams and is independent of the house structure; that it bear its own weight. Honestly, I do not know what that means, but that is why professional structural engineers are involved. Two separate structural engineering companies, including one who has consult and build bridges in NW, PA, MA and all along the eastern corridor the last thirty years has physically inspected the structure; yet some here are able to come to a conclusion on the structural integrity of the property just from looking at a picture taken ways away.

Everything about the house and pool, except for the beach access is planned and is in the structural engineering drawings. For example we asked for the pool to be cantilevered significantly on the narrow zero edge side after the fact for dramatic effect but the structural engineer overseeing the build (yes, a different structural engineer than the one who drew the original plans is supervising the work) denied it. The most according to the computer calculations and something about international standards that he cited said it could be cantilevered at most 3 feet on the two zero edge sides, so that is what we are going with. That is for the weight of water but because it is an infinity pool part of the cantilevered area will be for the catch basing and not hold that much water.

We have read quite a bit already about issues associated with rooftop pools and have taken much of what I have learnt into initial plans, before the concept was even developed. I do not think we can ever read enough however so I plan to read the information at the link provided above. For example the pool is suspended about a foot from the bar deck. The reason is that regular inspections, perhaps with a camera and light can be conducted for leakage. The mechanical engineer is looking into sensors and alarms for that.
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This is the original concept. The difference is that the pool size is reduced with a different orientation. Infinity edge on two sides with a 3 foot cantilever and a beach pool access.
 
I was going by the picture, but it's not enough to make any conclusions.

Perhaps I over worry about such things, especially with the technical challenges involved in such a project.

My main concern was that a qualified engineer was overseeing the project.

Thanks for providing an update.

Hopefully, we can help you some.

It's an exciting project and it will be interesting to follow the progress.
 
@stiritup As you can see there is a lot of curiosity about your project.

Let us know how can we help you?
 
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Stir, you are new here and may not be entirely sold on the wealth of friendly knowledge these folks can provide. Lemme TELL you, they are fan-DANG-tastic and will be falling over themselves to help in anyway with whatever you deem ok to share.

They do so on a traditional project all day / every day and this one is exponentially cooler so you will have even more helpers.

Keep us posted !! :)
 

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I was going by the picture, but it's not enough to make any conclusions.

Perhaps I over worry about such things, especially with the technical challenges involved in such a project.

My main concern was that a qualified engineer was overseeing the project.

Thanks for providing an update.

Hopefully, we can help you some.

It's an exciting project and it will be interesting to follow the progress.
I appreciate the help
 
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Stir, you are new here and may not be entirely sold on the wealth of friendly knowledge these folks can provide. Lemme TELL you, they are fan-DANG-tastic and will be falling over themselves to help in anyway with whatever you deem ok to share.

They do so on a traditional project all day / every day and this one is exponentially cooler so you will have even more helpers.

Keep us posted !! :)
I can see that. Honestly I was here just to read and not post anything on the actual construction. Someone asked for pictures which led to conversation. I am glad it started even if was accidental.
 
If you want to share any of the construction and engineering details, we would be interested in seeing them to give everyone an idea about what's involved in doing this type of project.

If not, that's understandable as well.

In any case, thanks for sharing this with us.

:goodjob:
 
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Having almost completed a build/renovation that concept drawing is such a great idea.

With a rooftop exposure and infinity edge your evaporation in summer will be quite high. One of our pools is quite exposed and the evaporation is very high to the point I checked it for leaks. The exposure also increases the overnight temperature drops. We installed heating, an auto topup and solar PV panels to offset the pump running costs. An auto overflow with drain to waste was very handy too.

It was a bit of a pain to retrofit all that in the old pool but I was all over it in the new build running all the cabling and pipes during the construction. I would be covering all those unused roof spaces with solar PV panels. They not only produce power but also help cool the roof top and building below.

I was quite shocked at how much detail was missing from our architect plans. No provision for pumps and filtration or access without going through the house. I guess with a roof top, separate access for your pool is out of the question, if you haven’t researched it yet a SWCG (salt water chlorine generator) would be very desirable so you don’t have to lug bleach through the house. I have no idea how much experience you have with pools but would never have a pool without a SWCG.
 
Having almost completed a build/renovation that concept drawing is such a great idea.

With a rooftop exposure and infinity edge your evaporation in summer will be quite high. One of our pools is quite exposed and the evaporation is very high to the point I checked it for leaks. The exposure also increases the overnight temperature drops. We installed heating, an auto topup and solar PV panels to offset the pump running costs. An auto overflow with drain to waste was very handy too.

It was a bit of a pain to retrofit all that in the old pool but I was all over it in the new build running all the cabling and pipes during the construction. I would be covering all those unused roof spaces with solar PV panels. They not only produce power but also help cool the roof top and building below.

I was quite shocked at how much detail was missing from our architect plans. No provision for pumps and filtration or access without going through the house. I guess with a roof top, separate access for your pool is out of the question, if you haven’t researched it yet a SWCG (salt water chlorine generator) would be very desirable so you don’t have to lug bleach through the house. I have no idea how much experience you have with pools but would never have a pool without a SWCG.
Thank you very much for the lessons learned. It is certainly Water evaporation is definitely a concern and from everything I have read, to be expected. Also, we are looking into creative way for water fall above the pool. The wall to the right of the pool will share boundary with the pool and we figured it presented a great opportunity for a feature water fall which will contribute with water loss. We went with salt water and the pool will be heated. Candidate pool companies have been chosen but none explicitly selected. We are still in discussion with all of them and will bring up the auto topup idea with who we select. We have a well in place but the rocky soil and elevation makes it hard to get water, although we got enough to use for the construction thus far. The depth is 120 feet and it may need to go 150 feet to have real success. Solar for at least the pool and maybe the bar is a must and so we are exploring that option. We don't think we have enough real estate on the roof for a whole house.

The pool pumps and tank goes under the pool deck next to the pool and there is plenty of space for that. Access to the pool is from the bar deck and you don't go through the house to get there. There is a stairwell from the ground floor that allows you to get to the roof without going through any of the rooms.
 

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