12V LED Resin filled pool lights on ebay

[Jimjones666]

I am considering changing my old pool lights and was wondering if anyone has had any experiences with the 12V LED pool lights on ebay.
I have been looking at this one in particular, anyone else used these resin filled lights?

Also what are the general thoughts on LED lights compared to the old style ones.

Your feedback is much appreciated.

 

[setsailsoon]

I've had LED pool lights for the past 7 years. Replaced once under warranty and now are failing. Most of my experience with LED lights was back in my blue water sailing days. Changing mast lights 63' in the air underway or in remote places was a real pain and dangerous. So we thought LED's would be fantastic. LED's were supposed to last forever. But they were doing good to last a season. Water intrusion was the enemy at first. So the next rendition were completely resin-filled. These should have solved the problem, right? Not really, they just changed the problem to heat dissipation. This actually caused quicker failure. Now the very newest ones seem to work well. They are resin filled and have a conductive cooling material embedded that conducts heat outside of the bulb housing plus they design the electronics to minimize heat and/or be resistant to heat. The ones on Ebay look like they are second generation and I don't think they'll last. They don't say anything about heat dissipation.

My $.02.

Chris

 

[Jimjones666]

@setsailsoon
Thanks for the great insight, I never thought of the resin causing heat issues with the LED lights, when you think LED you think heat reduction, but this will make me think twice about them now. The problem with these Ebay lights is that there is never any reviews and I can't seem to find reviews anywhere on the internet about them.

I have LED bulbs in my house and they seem good and have lasted a few years without any problems, but they are not smothered in resin. They are also Philips brand name so if they break at least I have someone to moan to.

I also think your post is worth much more than $.02

 

[Jimjones666]

@setsailsoon
Do you think that being underwater, that would be sufficent to keep the LED's cool?

 

[setsailsoon]

@setsailsoon
Do you think that being underwater, that would be sufficent to keep the LED's cool?

I think the designers believed this would be the case. But it doesn't appear it was adequate in practice. The newer designs that address head dissipation with a separate conductor embedded in the resin filled assembly and improved heat resistant components appear to have solved this problem.

Chis

 

[Jimjones666]

I think the designers believed this would be the case. But it doesn't appear it was adequate in practice. The newer designs that address head dissipation with a separate conductor embedded in the resin filled assembly and improved heat resistant components appear to have solved this problem.

Chis

I have been looking for the newer design in lights but can't seem to find any that talk about heat dissipation or heat resistant components, do you know of any models or brands that I can search for? Any links you can send with these features would be helpful if you have any.

 

[setsailsoon]

I have been looking for the newer design in lights but can't seem to find any that talk about heat dissipation or heat resistant components, do you know of any models or brands that I can search for? Any links you can send with these features would be helpful if you have any.

The only company that I know of is CMP. They sell a line of LED pool lights called Brilliant Wonders. This is the light I was going to test this year until my wife decided we needed new flooring in the house... just finished that job - wow! $$$. Maybe next year on the pool lights.

The CMP light has two pretty interesting features. First, they at least mention they have a special heat conductive body to increase electronics life several places in their literature. Second they use a waterproof fitting to connect the LED light itself to the cord. So at least if you ever have remove it to winterize or service you don't need to pull a new cord. They are also about half the price of major brands and claim to have "smartsync technology" and claim this will sync up with any of the 3 major brands of automation equipment plus they carry a 3 year warranty. They are available at several online pool supply outlets.

I hope this helps.

Chris

 

[Jimjones666]

The only company that I know of is CMP. They sell a line of LED pool lights called Brilliant Wonders. This is the light I was going to test this year until my wife decided we needed new flooring in the house... just finished that job - wow! $$$. Maybe next year on the pool lights.

The CMP light has two pretty interesting features. First, they at least mention they have a special heat conductive body to increase electronics life several places in their literature. Second they use a waterproof fitting to connect the LED light itself to the cord. So at least if you ever have remove it to winterize or service you don't need to pull a new cord. They are also about half the price of major brands and claim to have "smartsync technology" and claim this will sync up with any of the 3 major brands of automation equipment plus they carry a 3 year warranty. They are available at several online pool supply outlets.

I hope this helps.

Chris

Thanks for this info. I had a look but was put off as I found some potential problems, not sure how they would fit in my existing lights Niche, I have a retro fit adapter for it which lets you attach most of the the big brand new LED's, but they are all flat to the wall unlike these. The price is similar to the ebay ones I was looking at and they both have the easy waterproof plug for changing later on which is good.
I also found a retailer who sells this product here and was put off by the first comment on the site by Charles S. he says his only lasted just over a year.

 

[Jimjones666]

At this point I am swaying back to just buying a replacement bulb for my old light, as old as it is. It seems the LED lights just don't last in a pool, you would think that with all the current technology we would not be going backwards.
As my existing light uses the Par56 bulb type after more looking I see that I can get LED in the Par56 bulbs but I wonder if they give as many problems as all the other LED lights that I have been looking at.
Has anyone had any experience with the Par56 LED globes?