First of all, I have tremendous respect for and have benefited from the TFP forum, this is why I became a supporter and plan to continue contributing to the forum. I am saying all this because I feel that few established members of this forum may have vested interest in the TFTest and hope this feedback is taken constructively without taking anything personally. I just feel there is a chasm between the enthusiasm and dedication of people on this forum and business side of selling the TFTests. Here are the main points and further below is the full email exchange with the TFTest:
1) Most importantly: I pointed out a major issue in measuring FC (comparing with two other kits). There was no caring to find out what's going on, no "send me the sample of reagent to find out what's going on". Simply, here is the address for you to send it for refund. So, disappointing...
2) Its shame to leverage TFP and TFTest reputation to upsell accessories that are beyond poor quality. I bought salt strips and pH-Meter simply because of the reputation of TFTest and, like i said in the email, free salt-strips that came with my SWCG were 100-times better than what I received. Just sell the test kits and don't upsell inferior products because the reputation is hard to restore.
3) Although similarly priced, ergonomics of C-2006 (or even poolmaster kit) are significantly better than the TFTest: no color coding of reagents, no organization in the box, flat box with huge foot-print that is very awkward to use, instruction on a separate paper (rather than attached to the lid), etc. I have my 11 year old son engaged in pool testing and he loves doing it with K-2006 (we share subscription version of PoolMath software where he enters results). I couldn't trust him being able to do the same using the TFTest.
4) Acid/base demand test is lacking when compared to K-2006. It would be better to have this explicitly listed on the comparison page (even if one thinks these tests are not important).
Below is the full email:
On November 24, 2020 at 11:35 AM, "#### @TFTestkits" <[email protected]> wrote:
1) Most importantly: I pointed out a major issue in measuring FC (comparing with two other kits). There was no caring to find out what's going on, no "send me the sample of reagent to find out what's going on". Simply, here is the address for you to send it for refund. So, disappointing...
2) Its shame to leverage TFP and TFTest reputation to upsell accessories that are beyond poor quality. I bought salt strips and pH-Meter simply because of the reputation of TFTest and, like i said in the email, free salt-strips that came with my SWCG were 100-times better than what I received. Just sell the test kits and don't upsell inferior products because the reputation is hard to restore.
3) Although similarly priced, ergonomics of C-2006 (or even poolmaster kit) are significantly better than the TFTest: no color coding of reagents, no organization in the box, flat box with huge foot-print that is very awkward to use, instruction on a separate paper (rather than attached to the lid), etc. I have my 11 year old son engaged in pool testing and he loves doing it with K-2006 (we share subscription version of PoolMath software where he enters results). I couldn't trust him being able to do the same using the TFTest.
4) Acid/base demand test is lacking when compared to K-2006. It would be better to have this explicitly listed on the comparison page (even if one thinks these tests are not important).
Below is the full email:
On November 24, 2020 at 11:35 AM, "#### @TFTestkits" <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear ####,
I am sorry you do not like the kit an demeter. All products have a one year warranty. Please ship to address as below for a refund.
Kind regards,
TFTestkits
1221 Sophie Rd
Creedmoor, NC 27522
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 11:05 AM ######## wrote:
Hello,
I have multiple issues with TFT kit and lease advise how to address these:
1) pH meter - seems very inaccurate and even the manual seems to be written in very poor English (machine translated from a foreign manufacturer?) - something that was probably outsourced with little QC. Specifically:
2) FC test also seems to be very inaccurate although it uses the same reagents as the K2006. Two days in a row FC based on K2006 is 6ppm and TFT shows 8.5ppm. At this point, I trust K2006 more since it agreed with all other tests kits (I also have poolmaster kit and few test strip kits).
- Bullet #4 from the pH Calibration instructions makes no sense and it's not clear what one is expected to do. "After about one minute, until the buffer solution value corresponding to the measurement temperature is obtained." So, it is not clear "after about one minute" what one is supposed to do.
- To my best ability I followed the calibration instructions to regulate the trimmer with a screwdriver at with pH 6.86 solution. Then, cleaned the electrode as described in the instructions and then dipped it in the pH4.01 solution. Even after a minute or longer, the unit was showing 4.4 and never matched the 4.01.
- I measured pool water with both K-2006 and this pH-meter: in the evening the K-2006 showed 7.6 and the pH-meter showed 7.2. Next morning, K-2006 showed 7.6 and the pH-meter showed 8.0. The other pH test that came with the TFT kit also agreed with K-2006 on both occasions.
- At this point, I am not sure what do to with the unit since the results seem to vary greatly and they seem inaccurate.
3) The overall packaging the content is little disappointing - K2006 is about the same price but its heads and shoulders above as far as the packaging and utility goes (not a huge flat generic organizer that is difficult to store/handle/find right reagent). I also didn't see the acid/base demand test that seems standard with much cheaper test-kits. Plus, because I have tremendous respect for the TFP site, I trusted that TFTest kit would include high-quality components and added salt-test strips to the order. They are much inferior quality than the free strips that came with my SWG and will probably throw them away - I don't think any pool owner who cares enough to join the TFPs to educate themselves and try to buy the best, would ever rely on these salt strips. These strips, and the pH meter, shouldn't be offered as an upsell along with the TFTest that is highly rated.
Please let me know how to resolve these.
Sincerely,
#######
P.S. I apologize for being so blunt - I am just terribly disappointed since I hold the TFP in such a high regard and purchased this kit based on their recommendation. I tremendously care about doing things correctly and this is my third kit (poolmaster, k-2006 and this); I use them concurrently to eliminate any mistakes and this kit has been such a letdown compared to others because I had such a high-expectations.
Begin forwarded message:
From: TFTestkits <[email protected]>
Date: 11/18/2020