This thread has so quickly flown over my head. More pics please!
Absolutely gorgeous looking!
Absolutely gorgeous looking!
John_and_ValI talked to pentair yesterday - In regards to the setting for the heater(s)....they said the way they work is that the heaters work off of a heat pump "preferred" circuitry. So the heat pump will run until the computer figures out that the temperature is not rising and then it shuts the heat pump down and fires up the gas heater.
What they could not answer was how this was achieved....is it a certain temperature? A certain length of time the heat pump runs? A calculation of run time vs. temperature increase? No one knew! So I am trying to find that out.
I ordered the second load center, expansion board, and 400,000 btu mastertemp yesterday.
Now i just have to figure out the NEMA enclosure......
Hi Jon and Val. New member here. I was wondering where you purchased the waterline tile and travertine. I am in South Miami and starting to look at suppliers. Thanks!
RATS!. Okay, I like your "fallback plan" though. Yes, large J-boxes. Maybe one J-Box for the transformer wiring that feed into the Main Load Center and two more for the transformers whose wiring feed into the Expansion Load Center?@MyAZPool
1 - The NEMA 4 idea.......my great city inspectors shot the idea down. They said once you remove the enclosure, it is no longer a listed product. No list - no inspection!
So, how about this - I mount all the transformers on the wall, and run all wiring into a couple of large jboxes, and then only a couple of conduits to the load centers?
you think that will work? I loved your idea, but the city..............arrrrrgh
I did scour the IntelliCenter documentation when you first mentioned this concept and I did not find anything (but that is not conclusive). I will run this by someone I know, and see what his thoughts are. I'll be sure to pass along any relevant info I can dig up. But like you said, it might be "experimentation time" once all is up and running. Worst case is once water reaches desired temp, you kill one heater and energize the other. But hopefully a better solution is out there.@MyAZPool
2 - Heaters - Talked to pentair heater guy and automation guy. Seems like there is a separation problem inside pentair. It is like the silo theory! One department doesn't know the other. Anyway, bottom line is the only working order of these heater is this:
In "heat pump preferred" mode - the heat pump is the primary heater. You program for it to heat the pool to 85 degrees. You program it to attempt to heat to 85 degrees for 15 minutes. If it fails to do so, it will turn off and now the gas heater will turn on. Problem is - once temperature reaches 85 degrees, it will not revert back to the heat pump to maintain the temperature.
Now I am thinking about it, I am not sure if the programming is done in the intellicenter or the heaters?
I guess it will be a trial and error kind of thing once up and running.
Let me know your thoughts
@kimkats @bdavis466 - I wanted to throw this at you and see what you think. The wife and I decided we need to make this table top POP ...........so..............
Attached are the travertine colors - the water line/step/fire bowl pedestal and table pedestal tile - and something along the lines like this for the table top.
I can get one cheap piece of any kind of granite and one piece of this (or similar).....Epoxy them together and have a couple of 16"x16" pieces epoxied where the hole will be cut out on the bottom. This way I can epoxy in that and set the table top on the pedestal.
and again - the thickness of the top will be given by the mitered edge. I am thinking 1" below water and 2 or 3" above.
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What do you all think?
Good thinking!@MyAZPool
300 W for Laminars (three of them - they are rated at 100W, so the 80% rule makes me go to 300 W)
Yep, I sure did see that. Perfect! It will be very clean.@MyAZPool
Also, good news is if you look at the pad pour, I left the "highway" for electrical conduit open, so we can at least hide the conduit underground a little.