New F/Glass build DownUnder - Adelaide - What have I let myself in for?... :)

Well done on the waste. You have thought of everything adding those two extra ports/provisions/whatever they are officially called.

Neither of my pumps are bolted down and I can’t imagine they would walk off or even vibrate to any noticeable amount that would cause stress on the pvc. I kind of think (completely uneducated with the exception of high school physics) that it would cause more stress on the pvc fittings if the pump was bolted down as the pump and surrounding fittings aren’t able to move/vibrate together.
 
The generally accepted view on pump inlet pipe around here is that '4 pipe diameters before inlet' is a holdover from conventional centrifugal pumps without strainers. The 8" or 10" of straight pipe removes turbulence so the flow into the impeller matches what the impeller designer would have anticipated. The strainer basket blows that all to bits, so the entry to a pool pump likely doesn't matter. There's every chance you'll find 4 or 5 pipe diameters mentioned in the manual, but I think it can be ignored.

I'm accustomed to bolting down motors, but can understand both sides with respect to pool pumps. Small motors don't move much and my VS pump starts slow and ramps up as well, so there isn't much strain to worry about. I did anchor mine, but other pumps I've seen here are not bolted down and PVC is all fine. I put treated timber under mine for sound, and the hard rubber sheet would be even better I reckon.
 
Well done on the waste. You have thought of everything

I'm sure I have missed something...:)


...well another day spent inhaling PVC solvent fumes...:crazy:

Finally finished my custom waste plumbing - just need to wait a day to allow the PVC solvents to dry fully before testing.


Below is a pic of the waste vertical riser which has a capped top (not glued on) and is normally closed off via the two way valve.

I can just pop the top cap off open the valve and run a hose etc as required into the system if ever required - Probably will not get used much, but may come in handy in an emergency for my submersible pump etc.

I have also Tee'd off a 25mm ball valve via a union which runs off to my Multi Cyclone's drain - This will make cleaning the Multicyclone's canister a breeze.


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I added a 25mm compression coupling in the Multicyclone's drain line so I can extend the pipe run at least 150mm or so.

I want to move my main pump back away from the wall another 100m or so and this will allow me to do so without any further work required to this pipe. Moving the pump back will necessitate a few mods to the main 50mm pipe runs - A job for another day....!

So far I'm happy - Leak test reserved for another day as I ran out of time this weekend...


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Oh, no. Pipe-before-pump myth dispelled! I've become a pool myth propagator!!

Two things I've been curious about, and I was a late comer to your thread, so maybe you covered this.

Are you the most amazing PVC gluer, like, ever, or is all your work dry-fitted, in advance of gluing? I don't see the tiniest hint of PVC glue or primer in any of your joints, in any of your pictures. What gives?

What is going on with your pool while all this work is going on? Is your pad and equipment active? Pool full of water? Or are you plumbing your pad while your pool waits for water? Or is all this work going on in short sessions, and you restore your pad's functionality after each session?
 
Could be clear primer and solvent, plus meticulous work, typical of Costas' DIY! It's the tidiest I've seen too :)

Oh yeh, and no worries on that likely myth. When the manufacturers keep putting it in manuals, I think it's more like fine-tuning :)
 
Could be clear primer and solvent


Needsajet is on the money - Clear Primer & Glue/Solvent does the trick.

It makes for a neater looking joint as even if you over do it the glue/solvent is clear which looks 110% neater.

Only drawback is that while it sets up in 30 secs or so, it takes 24Hrs+ to fully cure, so many contractors prefer fasting curing solvents which tend to not be available in clear.



Are you the most amazing PVC gluer, like, ever, or is all your work dry-fitted, in advance of gluing? I don't see the tiniest hint of PVC glue or primer in any of your joints, in any of your pictures. What gives?


Apart from utilising clear primer and solvent another trick is that I don't bother dry fitting the PVC all that much as you cannot accurately position the pipe into sockets etc all the way due to the taper present on sockets & fittings.

However what I do is to accurately measure the internal depth of sockets/fittings and use this measurement in addition to any pipe length required before cutting the pvc pipe. Most contractors will simply 'eyeball' it, mark it then cut - which gets it close but not necessarily spot on so to speak.


What is going on with your pool while all this work is going on? Is your pad and equipment active? Pool full of water? Or are you plumbing your pad while your pool waits for water? Or is all this work going on in short sessions, and you restore your pad's functionality after each session?

Pool equipment is off-line while working on my pad. As my pad is located higher than the pool, water runs back into the pool.

I have been disassembling the pumps etc at the start and placing every thing back the end of each day. Doesn't take long to remove and re-instate the pumps, Multicyclone pre-filter etc.

As it is winter over here at the moment I have only been running my main pump for 2hrs early in the morning and another 2 late in the afternoon/evening. So plenty of time left during the day to work on the gear.



Oh, no. Pipe-before-pump myth dispelled! I've become a pool myth propagator!!

In an ideal scenario a liquid pump's volute is connected directly to an incoming pipe which ideally requires laminar flow for maximum performance and minimum noise.

However our pool pumps do not necessarily reflect the exact same scenario. For instance our typical pool pumps do not have the volute positioned directly at the incoming pipe.

Our typical pool pumps will have a basket/sump assembly between the incoming pipe and its internal volute.

So already we have a non ideal entity directly in front of the volute which actually hampers performance of the pump a small amount as it does create some turbulence to the flow before the water can reach the volute. In an 'ideal' situation we would not want the basket assembly mounted directly in front of the volute - however that is not exactly a practical solution for pool use.

General consensus is to have a straight run of 5x (min) the internal diameter of your incoming pipe before the water hits the volute but that is not always practical and as you see with our pumps we already have a strainer basket and sump in the way before we can even connect our pipe... :mrgreen:
 
BTW - Speaking of plumbing but on a much smaller scale (albeit a lot more expensive though...).

Here is one of my water cooled PC's that I built - Consists of a number of pumps, flow meters and lots of fittings which don't require glue....!

Tried to keep pipework neat in this project as well...:)

A lot of our pool pump hydraulic issues apply to my PC...!


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Behind the scenes look at (part of) the equipment pad for my PC.... rectangular looking block in the centre is a dual series pump setup designed for increased pressure head:

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Sweet mother of motherboards Costas that is an incredibly sexy PC. Major props for going the watercooling route and in the hard pipes as well *drool* I've seen motherboards straight out of the box with more dust on them that is a beautiful machine :party:

What's the SLI consist of? I assume that's a gaming rig? Computer hardware is my second true love behind my wife :p but she's the bigger gamer in the household so it works out well.

*edit* Uhh I have more questions the more I drool. I just worked out the 2nd pic is below the motherboard, so that four fan setup is just for radiator? Yum.
Tell me you have a window on that case for that much beauty? Is it a tempered glass model? Is the tempered glass look a better look than the old acrylic?
I will restrain myself now :p
 
What's the SLI consist of? I assume that's a gaming rig?

Hi Brett,

It is my main PC which I also game on...:mrgreen:

It is coming up to 2 yrs of age now and it is running 2x EVGA 980Ti's which are overclocked. Decided to skip the current gen nVidia chipset and wait for their next release.

I have been an avid overclocker/watercooler back from the early Pentium 100 days... Have done custom (home brew) blocks and peltiers but no liquid nitrogen.

Apart from the asthetics and performance, the main reason I enjoy the watercooling is that the PC is extremely quiet.

In fact while my SSD's are dead quiet, I had to dampen and muffle the hard drives as their head seeking noises were annoying in my study...:D



Uhh I have more questions the more I drool. I just worked out the 2nd pic is below the motherboard, so that four fan setup is just for radiator? Yum.
Tell me you have a window on that case for that much beauty? Is it a tempered glass model? Is the tempered glass look a better look than the old acrylic?
I will restrain myself now :p


Case is all aluminium and manufactured in the USA by a company called Caselabs.

Side panel is acrylic - glass is pretty heavy and the whole system weighs in at over 40Kg.

The system has 24x 140mm fans cooling 3 large radiators. The fans run at very low RPMs thereby keeping the whole system quiet yet providing excellent cooling reserve. I can run Prime 95 for days on end with the CPU never exceeding 60C.

A few more pics of my PC over at the Caselabs website: Customer Build Gallery - SMA8 and SMH10 Builds - Deja Vu - SMA8 by Costas - CaseLabs Store

You will also find a build thread at the bottom of the Caselabs website link which takes you to an Overclocker's forum which details the construction.


BTW- Thanks for posting out the Chlorine FAS-DPD test kit today...!
 
I think they’re currently chipping your paving off a big boulder somewhere is the deep unknown. Yay for coping at least. Is that grey granite?

If I had one of those little gadgets my pool would read 30.0* [emoji13] Boys swam yesterday. No requests this evening though as it’s cold, wet and miserable here today. You can have your Adelaide weather back!
 

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