New Pool + Cabana + Putting Green - Lucas, TX

Pool looks awesome! Great great job!

outdoor speakers. . . Your backyard is so large I would look into an array setup. Triad speakers. Made in USA in Oregon. Great company to deal with. Have to go through a dealer though.

An array setup would would give you very even coverage so there are no loud or soft spots. They can run off 1 amp. There is also a sub that can be buried so it's hidden. You can hook that amp to a Sonos player and you got all the music you cAn ever need. If u want another zone somewhere else u can add a pair of mounted speakers and run that off a Sonos player with built in amp.

If u wanted a 1 box solution for multiple zones of all independent audio u can look for a Nuvo dealer and do a 3 zone pro player. 1 zone for pool on array. 1 zone under ur porch by house. 1 zone under pergola which u might not need if you do a nice array around the pool.

Jim
 
Jim, You know what I am going to do with you? I am going to put your name on THE list! LOL Yeah we have a list with people's names on it and YOUR name is going on it!!! :shock: I am going to list your name under "Music set up". That way when anyone has a question about this we can click on your name and sent you a note to come check out the thread! What do you think about that??

Kim:kim:
 
Jim, You know what I am going to do with you? I am going to put your name on THE list! LOL Yeah we have a list with people's names on it and YOUR name is going on it!!! :shock: I am going to list your name under "Music set up". That way when anyone has a question about this we can click on your name and sent you a note to come check out the thread! What do you think about that??

Kim:kim:

No kidding!!! He's too advanced for me! Kim, also add his name under "Lawn, Landscaping, and Vegetable Gardening" on THE List! (and fishing, all things Disney, Legos, Italian food, and some others I can't remember just now)
 
Jim, You know what I am going to do with you? I am going to put your name on THE list! LOL Yeah we have a list with people's names on it and YOUR name is going on it!!! :shock: I am going to list your name under "Music set up". That way when anyone has a question about this we can click on your name and sent you a note to come check out the thread! What do you think about that??

Kim:kim:

that's fine with me. ya i know i'm all over audio and video stuff. it's what I do.

that's cool though. anytime i can help.

jim

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No kidding!!! He's too advanced for me! Kim, also add his name under "Lawn, Landscaping, and Vegetable Gardening" on THE List! (and fishing, all things Disney, Legos, Italian food, and some others I can't remember just now)

lol

oh disney i'm the man for you there. wait maybe my daughter for that one! my daughter was able to give park tours at 4. she can lead you to anywhere with shortcuts! so she might be the better one! lol

legos. . . my son is starting to take the reins there! :)

food! i love food. my wife is the cook. i just eat it! lol

lawn and landscaping is in my blood.

vegetable gardening. . . i cheat. i'm learning from my uncle. he is the farmer in the family. every year i learn something!
hey anytime i can help!
 
That rain wall is spectacular!! I love it. Is it very loud? It's so tropical - like being at the bottom of a water fall. Do the kids like to be under it?

For me, it's the crowning touch to your resort!

Suz :sun:

Youre right, Suz. It's he piece that brings it all together. We worked really hard on the positioning of the cabana to be sure the rain wall wouldn't splash all over my head or fall in my lap when I'm sitting in my special spot! I gotta say, they nailed it.

To answer your question, it produces a serious down pour; it's quite loud and makes conversation in the cabana a bit challenging. I'm wondering if there's a way to turn it down a bit. There are two pumps running the water features: one for the waterfall + weeping wall and the other for the rain wall. Neither is variable speed, but maybe there's a valve I can adjust??

i will say this... today was HOT out by the pool and the rain wall produced a nice mist for those sitting around it.

Hold for pics of the plumbing and pump.
 
Here's the underside of the Cabana. I'm standing where the back wall will soon be. That's the TV outlet hanging in front of
me. You can see the conduit (painted brown) running along the rear beam. There's an outlet up high on the right (for twinkle lights). Also note the box in the middle awaiting the ceiling fan. Now look all the way to the front of the cabana and you'll see the pvc feeding the rain wall.
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In this pic you can see the switch box and an outlet hiding on the backside of the rear post. I'll use the outlet to plug in my landscape lighting transformer. From back there I can run wire anywhere in the yard.
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Here's a close up of the rain wall and the pvc that feeds it. There are two sides.

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But isn't it one of the valves at the pad?

It could be a valve at the pump but you could also have another one installed by the cabana since your yard is big so you don't have to run back and forth

The way to tell which controls it is to turn the valves off one at a time to see which one cuts of water flow. Once you find that one you can just do a quarter turn and that will restrict water flow. You can adjust from there to your liking
 
Pool looks awesome! Great great job!

outdoor speakers. . . Your backyard is so large I would look into an array setup. Triad speakers. Made in USA in Oregon. Great company to deal with. Have to go through a dealer though.

An array setup would would give you very even coverage so there are no loud or soft spots. They can run off 1 amp. There is also a sub that can be buried so it's hidden. You can hook that amp to a Sonos player and you got all the music you cAn ever need. If u want another zone somewhere else u can add a pair of mounted speakers and run that off a Sonos player with built in amp.

If u wanted a 1 box solution for multiple zones of all independent audio u can look for a Nuvo dealer and do a 3 zone pro player. 1 zone for pool on array. 1 zone under ur porch by house. 1 zone under pergola which u might not need if you do a nice array around the pool.

Jim

Jim... here's where my head is at

I've been reading great reviews of the Bose 51 speakers. I'm thinking 2-4 would be enough for us. I can run a reciever from the cabana as there's power there and I can run speaker wire anywhere I need from back there. My issue is I don't know what reciever to use. I like the slim, wall mountable form factor of the Bose SA-5. I could easily hide that on the wall behind the tv. The concern I have that it's not really outdoor rated. I'm not worried about it getting wet, rather the high temps here in Texas. Any other ideas (don't say Sonos)...?

Here's the overview of the yard. The red X's are where I envision those Bose 51's.

Thoughts??

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Jim... here's where my head is at

I've been reading great reviews of the Bose 51 speakers. I'm thinking 2-4 would be enough for us. I can run a reciever from the cabana as there's power there and I can run speaker wire anywhere I need from back there. My issue is I don't know what reciever to use. I like the slim, wall mountable form factor of the Bose SA-5. I could easily hide that on the wall behind the tv. The concern I have that it's not really outdoor rated. I'm not worried about it getting wet, rather the high temps here in Texas. Any other ideas (don't say Sonos)...?

Here's the overview of the yard. The red X's are where I envision those Bose 51's.

Thoughts??

mzuThyslDRQRAHmsPUd34ISAflOaeE75xGxAgBBA-1.jpg


t1Snor3LN_JXUpmoNMHPOgR0diqSfGcLY8tF_a5e-1.jpg


Why no to sonos? Because of the cost?
i am planning my audio system and planned on using a sonos type set up and was curious what your thoughts
 
Jim... here's where my head is at

I've been reading great reviews of the Bose 51 speakers. I'm thinking 2-4 would be enough for us. I can run a reciever from the cabana as there's power there and I can run speaker wire anywhere I need from back there. My issue is I don't know what reciever to use. I like the slim, wall mountable form factor of the Bose SA-5. I could easily hide that on the wall behind the tv. The concern I have that it's not really outdoor rated. I'm not worried about it getting wet, rather the high temps here in Texas. Any other ideas (don't say Sonos)...?

Here's the overview of the yard. The red X's are where I envision those Bose 51's.

Thoughts??

mzuThyslDRQRAHmsPUd34ISAflOaeE75xGxAgBBA-1.jpg


t1Snor3LN_JXUpmoNMHPOgR0diqSfGcLY8tF_a5e-1.jpg

TIC Audio actually invented these in ground speakers. The sound quality is just as good and much less expensive. TIC is what you see at theme parks. The model to look at is the GS3. You can find refurb models direct from TIC on eBay for under $75 each. Be sure sure to run the speaker wire in conduit


Spring 2017 new build in PA ! //// Pool on a big hill //// IG SWG 800 sqft +100 sqft sun shelf + 50 sqft spa. //// All Jandy Pro series equipment (help me choose which models !) //// SGM River Rok or Diamond Brite (help me choose!) //// Stamped Concrete, Pavers, or Stone (help me choose ! )
 
Jim... here's where my head is at

I've been reading great reviews of the Bose 51 speakers. I'm thinking 2-4 would be enough for us. I can run a reciever from the cabana as there's power there and I can run speaker wire anywhere I need from back there. My issue is I don't know what reciever to use. I like the slim, wall mountable form factor of the Bose SA-5. I could easily hide that on the wall behind the tv. The concern I have that it's not really outdoor rated. I'm not worried about it getting wet, rather the high temps here in Texas. Any other ideas (don't say Sonos)...?

Here's the overview of the yard. The red X's are where I envision those Bose 51's.

Thoughts??

mzuThyslDRQRAHmsPUd34ISAflOaeE75xGxAgBBA-1.jpg


t1Snor3LN_JXUpmoNMHPOgR0diqSfGcLY8tF_a5e-1.jpg

I have a pair of the Bose 51s, along with 2 pairs of Bose 251s mounted on my house. I love them, all controlled by the SA-4 and 5 amps (had two SA-4s before they replaced with the 5). I would not recommend having the amps outside. We have ours inside the house and ran the speaker wire out.

As far as placement, I would add another pair and put one on the other side of the fire pit area and another on the other side of the cabana. You will need to turn them up loud to get coverage with only 4, having the extra pair will get you more even coverage and you won't have to turn the volume up as loud to hear it from anyplace in the pool area. The directions in the box say to place them about 8-10' away from each other if I remember correctly for the best stereo sound. That's a little close, but I wouldn't go more than 15-20' apart.
 
ok i'll be totally honest with you. i'm just not a fan of bose for the fact that speakers half the price can be had that are better. with bose the customer pays for their advertising.

companies like russound, niles, sonance, triad make speakers that are cheaper and give better quality.

i'm just saying, not knocking them, but you can then put that money to other things needed.

but they will work.

you placement is fien of they are a single speaker that does stereo sound, but if each speaker is a left and a right you will loose sound cause the right and left speakers are too far apart. do you follow? in ur setup you have 4 speakers that are stereo if made like that or you have 2 pair of stereo speakers.

if they are 2 pair actually only you will need more coverage. if each speaker acts as a R and L steroe speaker you are good.

picture sitting under your rain wall and that 1 speaker is next to you. if it is only a L channel or a left channel you will only hear what is coming out of that speaker since u are so close to it.

regarding audio source. don't worry about the texas heat. most units have good fan cooling these days. worse worse case you buy a mountable fan that is made to cool components. they sit right ontop and pull air away with a small fan.

what about sources for audio? does the bose have built in internet streaming? you just hooking a cd player or iphone up to it?

jim

Jim... here's where my head is at

I've been reading great reviews of the Bose 51 speakers. I'm thinking 2-4 would be enough for us. I can run a reciever from the cabana as there's power there and I can run speaker wire anywhere I need from back there. My issue is I don't know what reciever to use. I like the slim, wall mountable form factor of the Bose SA-5. I could easily hide that on the wall behind the tv. The concern I have that it's not really outdoor rated. I'm not worried about it getting wet, rather the high temps here in Texas. Any other ideas (don't say Sonos)...?

Here's the overview of the yard. The red X's are where I envision those Bose 51's.

Thoughts??

mzuThyslDRQRAHmsPUd34ISAflOaeE75xGxAgBBA-1.jpg


t1Snor3LN_JXUpmoNMHPOgR0diqSfGcLY8tF_a5e-1.jpg

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I have a pair of the Bose 51s, along with 2 pairs of Bose 251s mounted on my house. I love them, all controlled by the SA-4 and 5 amps (had two SA-4s before they replaced with the 5). I would not recommend having the amps outside. We have ours inside the house and ran the speaker wire out.

As far as placement, I would add another pair and put one on the other side of the fire pit area and another on the other side of the cabana. You will need to turn them up loud to get coverage with only 4, having the extra pair will get you more even coverage and you won't have to turn the volume up as loud to hear it from anyplace in the pool area. The directions in the box say to place them about 8-10' away from each other if I remember correctly for the best stereo sound. That's a little close, but I wouldn't go more than 15-20' apart.


so is each speaker stereo or are they a R/L channel?

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TIC Audio actually invented these in ground speakers. The sound quality is just as good and much less expensive. TIC is what you see at theme parks. The model to look at is the GS3. You can find refurb models direct from TIC on eBay for under $75 each. Be sure sure to run the speaker wire in conduit


Spring 2017 new build in PA ! //// Pool on a big hill //// IG SWG 800 sqft +100 sqft sun shelf + 50 sqft spa. //// All Jandy Pro series equipment (help me choose which models !) //// SGM River Rok or Diamond Brite (help me choose!) //// Stamped Concrete, Pavers, or Stone (help me choose ! )

most companies like bose don't make thier own stuff. they OEM them. NAD was huge with this years ago. Thier bluray players were toshiba. so much that if you took the unit apart you saw tosh making inside.

best example of this is ATI. they make amps. very very good amps at that. hand made again in USA. they also make amps for boutique companies such as theta, lexicon, mark leviston. . . same thing. just nicer bodies but the guts are exactly the same. sometimes the heat control in them are diff, but no big deal. sound the same.
 
ok i'll be totally honest with you. i'm just not a fan of bose for the fact that speakers half the price can be had that are better. with bose the customer pays for their advertising.

companies like russound, niles, sonance, triad make speakers that are cheaper and give better quality.

i'm just saying, not knocking them, but you can then put that money to other things needed.

but they will work.

you placement is fien of they are a single speaker that does stereo sound, but if each speaker is a left and a right you will loose sound cause the right and left speakers are too far apart. do you follow? in ur setup you have 4 speakers that are stereo if made like that or you have 2 pair of stereo speakers.

if they are 2 pair actually only you will need more coverage. if each speaker acts as a R and L steroe speaker you are good.

picture sitting under your rain wall and that 1 speaker is next to you. if it is only a L channel or a left channel you will only hear what is coming out of that speaker since u are so close to it.

regarding audio source. don't worry about the texas heat. most units have good fan cooling these days. worse worse case you buy a mountable fan that is made to cool components. they sit right ontop and pull air away with a small fan.

what about sources for audio? does the bose have built in internet streaming? you just hooking a cd player or iphone up to it?

jim



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so is each speaker stereo or are they a R/L channel?

You can set it either way in the Bose app. You can make it mono or stereo. The SA-5 Amos are part of the SoundTouch system so they are just like Sonos. They have internet streaming and link up with Pandora, iHeart, SiriusXM, and a couple others I don't use. XM gets the most use for me.

I should also say the only reason I have Bose is because my brother in law works for them so I got it all half price. Otherwise I agree with Jim that it's too expensive and you can get as good or better speakers for less.
 

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