Difference between revisions of "Jandy LXI Heaters" - Further Reading

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The JXI heaters have two high limit sensors, 135F and 150F, on the bottom rear of one side of the header assembly and the other on the upper front of the other side of the header assembly.
 
The JXI heaters have two high limit sensors, 135F and 150F, on the bottom rear of one side of the header assembly and the other on the upper front of the other side of the header assembly.
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[[File:Jandy JXI High Limit Sensor.jpg|thumb]]
  
 
The sensors are a simple switch that should be closed when the heater is off. Test the sensor using a multimeter and if it tests open then it needs replacement.
 
The sensors are a simple switch that should be closed when the heater is off. Test the sensor using a multimeter and if it tests open then it needs replacement.

Revision as of 16:30, 24 March 2023

Introduction

The Jandy/Laars LX and LT have no standing pilot burner.

Do not use the heaters to maintain pool or spa water temperature below 70F.

Manuals

Jandy Pro SeriesLXI™ Gas-Fired Pool and Spa Heater

LX™ and LT™Gas-Fired Pool and Spa Heater Installation and Operation Manual

JANDY LX or LT LOW NOx TROUBLESHOOTING

Altitude Adjustments

Air is thinner and less dense as the altitude increases. A natural gas or propane heater needs an optimum mixture of air and gas. If the air/gas mixture is incorrect you will have an orange yellow flame instead of a good blue flame.

At higher latitudes the gas needs to be adjusted for the proper air/gas mixture.[1]

  • LOW ALTITUDE 0-4500 FT 0-4500 FT
  • HIGH ALTITUDE 4501-10,000 FT

When an LXi heater is to be installed in a high altitude application, the burner throat pressure will need to be adjusted to achieve 1.0"WC. See Section 10.4.3 for instructions on how to do this.

Repairs

Jandy Heater Troubleshooting Guides for LRZE, LRZM, LXi,LITE 2 LD, LITE 2 LJ, LITE 2 LG, LX OR LT, HiE2, SERIES 1 & 2, HOT SHOT, and DP OIL FIRED heaters.

Workbook JXi Pool&Spa Heater is a training manual for pool repairmen.

BP Electronics or Industrial Electronic Repair has repaired Jandy heater boards. Check with them if your board needs replacement.[2]

JXI Igniters

Silicon Carbide Hot Surface Ignitors are very fragile. That is why they come packed in thick foam packaging. After removing be sure not to bump, scrape or jar the black crystalline part of the ignitor. Also be sure not to touch or contaminate the black crystalline surface with your hands ( it can cause it to fail very similar to a halogen bulb that has been touched with your hands). Although these are not the only reasons for a hot surface ignitor to fail, they are basic precautions that need to be adhered to.

After installing check the resistance of the ignitor with a multimeter. A new ignitor should read approximately 40-90 ohms.[3]

Jandy changed the igniter style a while back as the ones they originally used broke too easily. The old one was like a spiral design.

Jandy JXI Igniter Old Style

The new style is more of a solid looking piece.[4]

Jandy JXI Igniter New Style

Flame Rectification Failure

Does the heater briefly ignite and you get a puff of heat and then shuts down? If so you may have have a flame sensing problem. Heater Flame Sensing describes what may be happening and ways to fix it.

JXI High Limit Sensors

The JXI heaters have two high limit sensors, 135F and 150F, on the bottom rear of one side of the header assembly and the other on the upper front of the other side of the header assembly.

Jandy JXI High Limit Sensor.jpg

The sensors are a simple switch that should be closed when the heater is off. Test the sensor using a multimeter and if it tests open then it needs replacement.

The sensors come as a set of two in a kit. If one fails the manual says to replace both. The 150F is the one with the smaller threads so that it will only fit that port.

Replacing Leaking Heat Exchanger in Jandy JXI Heater

Jandy JXI400N - Trouble Air describes how a member diagnosed the problems in his Jandy JXI400 heater, discovered the heat exchanger was leaking, and replaced the heat exchanger.

To check if the heat exchanger is leaking remove the ignitor and look into the burner can. If you see any water then you have a leak.

Fault - Shorted H2O Sensor

The H2O sensor is the water temperature sensor.

Thermistor test = Temp sensor test[5] Step 1 measure resistance. If resistance is infinite, stop test, sensor has failed. Step 2 Come to terms with being 50 bucks lighter.

Seriously, if your temp sensor is ok, you should get an ohms reading somewhere between 7.6K (around 88 degrees) and 11.9K (70 degrees).

If your panel is reporting a SHORTED sensor, it could also be chewed wire INSULATION between sensor and board! A severed or chewed through wire would give you an OPEN fault.

You can check if you replace the sensor with a resistor that has a value that would correspond to valid temp and see if the heater fault goes away, and the heater fires. Then you could confirm a bad sensor. Example: if you were to get a 10.0K ohm resistor, you should get a temp reading on the heater display of 77 degrees.

OR

If you are getting a SHORTED fault, disconnecting the sensor from the board should result in a OPEN fault. Or at least the shorted fault goes away, verifying that the board is ok. But if you remove the sensor from the board and you still get the shorted fault, the board would be suspect.

The sleeve the H2O sensor slides into is like a clear "shrink tubing" on the sensor. You may or may not get it on a replacement sensor. It acts to keep temp uniform throughout the length of the sensor.[6]

VERY IMPORTANT: Disconnect power from the heater, disconnect the sensor, then power the heater back up. This will ensure the fault is cleared, the heater will reboot, and re-check for new faults.

Fault - High Limit, HL

That sensor opens when the water temp exceeds the rating of the switch. Hot water opens the switch, heater shuts down, switch cools off and closes, heater re-fires and begins to heat again until the switch opens again.[7]

Jandy/Zodiac PC Board Repair

Some members have had good experiences with BP Engineering, Inc. repairing their Jandy boards.