Waterfall / Bar build questions

johnd23

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Aug 9, 2023
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Hi I am looking for some opinions on my waterfall/bar. I just had a steel wall vinyl liner pool installed. It has concrete braces connected to the walls and buried in the concrete collar. I am going to build a waterfall/bar across the deep end of my pool. 3 descent waterfalls built into it for the pool and 42" bar for outside of the pool. Dimensions are 20'L x 3'W x 40"H plus a granite top. I am in the process of working on my patio and my mason is doing a 3' concrete sub base for pavers around the pool and a footing for this bar. The footing will be 20'L x 3'W x 1'D. The mason recommends building the bar out of retaining wall block which I like the look of but I am afraid of the weight on the edge of the pool.

I have 2 questions. First is, should I build the waterfall/bar out of steel and cover it with concrete board/tile to save on weight? The retaining wall blocks would total about 10,000lbs, not including the granite top. Can the 1' deep footing support this and is it a bad idea to have this on the pool wall? To me it sounds like too much weight.

Second question is, the mason wants to not put coping in this waterfall area and place the blocks on the pool wall. I dont like the look of not having the coping under the waterfall but the mason says its better without so water cant drip down and get behind the wall. My plan was to place the bar ontop of the coping and have it set back maybe 4-5 inches. Is his reasoning a legit issue?

Appreciate any info you can provide. Thank you!

Here are some drawings of my plan
 

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A bar? Like having glass bottles on?

Glass should never be allowed around pools. A broken glass falling in the pool will require draining the pool.

In addition I don't want drink spills into the pool.

I would not want any structure sitting on a steel pool wall.

And design a foolproof way of blowing out and winterizing the sheers and lines. We see many of them damaged by freezing water. Especially in the wall where the pipe connects with the sheer.
 
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