Volley Ball court or Horseshoe pit
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That pool looks like it is getting there. My pool has looked like that before and cleared up.
Make sure the ph and alk number are with in range also.
Keep the filter running. 24/7.
Take a picture tomorrow and day aftee also to compare.
Make sure the ph and alk number are with in range also.
Keep the filter running. 24/7.
Take a picture tomorrow and day aftee also to compare.
Actually, your pool is coming along well. I would not swap out sand, and I especially would not use zeosand. Some people love it, but to me it is more expense without improved results to back it up. A sand filter is a workhorse, but it doesn't filter ultra fine. However you can top off the sand with a layer of DE to help trap those finer particles. Deep cleaning the sand filter bed will also help if you have not done this before. Before chucking what you have I would deep clean the sand and add about a cup of DE through the skimmer after every backwash cycle.
Deep Cleaning a Sand Filter
Deep Cleaning a Sand Filter
Also it was recommended to get PH and TA in range, but at shock level the PH test is unreliable and TA is the last thing you need to balance. Right now just focus on the FC and keep on SLAMing.
From my experience, after the chlorine does its job sanitizing the pool, my pool will stay cloudy if ph and alk readings not in range.
Thanks, Boxhat1. I have been told, here, that the Ph will show false high during SLAM. The last time I tested for it, before starting the SLAM, it was 7.2. Aerated for 2 days, brought it up to 7.6(reliable?). Been running the filter 24/7 since 5/2. I REALLY don't expect a change by tomorrow morning, but I will take pictures. Sorry, Boxhat1, I didn't see that last post till after I was done. How do I know that the chlorine has "done it's job, if I keep seeing a drop in FC?
Thanks, Zea3, you have been supportive!! I tried the DE, adding it as described here, a 1/4 cup at a time until the filter pressure increased by 1 psi. By the next day, pressure dropped back to "normal", about 10 psi. Has NEVER been above 12. The sand is new this season(1 month). In my mind, if I am to filter through a medium that is too coarse to remove the fine particulates that I am trying to get out, wouldn't it be advisable to have a finer filter medium? Is there a BIG difference between filter sand? Is there a medium that filters say, to, 80 microns or a similar measurement?
Thanks, Zea3, you have been supportive!! I tried the DE, adding it as described here, a 1/4 cup at a time until the filter pressure increased by 1 psi. By the next day, pressure dropped back to "normal", about 10 psi. Has NEVER been above 12. The sand is new this season(1 month). In my mind, if I am to filter through a medium that is too coarse to remove the fine particulates that I am trying to get out, wouldn't it be advisable to have a finer filter medium? Is there a BIG difference between filter sand? Is there a medium that filters say, to, 80 microns or a similar measurement?
Sorry, SpinPHD, didn't mean to leave you out of the conversation. You have been one of the ones that have stayed with me during this "Odyssey"
On 6/3, I posted:
Ok. Drain/Refill complete. I drained down to 23", refilled overnight. Been filtering for about 2 hours. Just finished the first sampling:
Ph 7.2
CC 0
FC 30
Alk 80
CH 60
CYA 50
I thought you said the numbers looked good....
Those are great numbers and it looks to me like all your numbers are perfect. You don't need to add anything, just let FC drop.
Am I OVERSLAMMING? Is there such a thing?
On 6/3, I posted:
Ok. Drain/Refill complete. I drained down to 23", refilled overnight. Been filtering for about 2 hours. Just finished the first sampling:
Ph 7.2
CC 0
FC 30
Alk 80
CH 60
CYA 50
I thought you said the numbers looked good....
Those are great numbers and it looks to me like all your numbers are perfect. You don't need to add anything, just let FC drop.
Am I OVERSLAMMING? Is there such a thing?
As I move my "dimmer switch" to the full bright setting, I just want to take a minute to say thanks to all that have been guiding me through this process. I am just pulling my hair out (which I don't have alot of these days) about how to get this pool clear.
Still have the volleyball court in mind.......
Let me throw this out there....
Could the excess FC be CAUSING the cloudiness?
Still have the volleyball court in mind.......
Let me throw this out there....
Could the excess FC be CAUSING the cloudiness?
No worries Dave. I did, but I corrected myself a few posts after that. At the time of post, I forgot you had algae before you drained and didn't realize your pool wasn't clear. In any event, you're not overslamming. Just need to stay the course.
They often say here that you need a POP: Pool Owner Patience. That is true, but I like to enjoy a beer with my POP.
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When was last time you checked your CYA? You may want to revisit that test to confirm your shock level is correct.
They often say here that you need a POP: Pool Owner Patience. That is true, but I like to enjoy a beer with my POP.
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When was last time you checked your CYA? You may want to revisit that test to confirm your shock level is correct.
I hope you aren't suggesting ANOTHER drain/refill? Is the CYA test reliable with a FC above 20 - 30? What is driving the CYA up? How do I control THAT?
PS..This has involved SOME BudLight.....Mostly medicinally, of course...
PS..This has involved SOME BudLight.....Mostly medicinally, of course...
Yes CYA test is realiable at high FC levels
As long as you just added liquid chlorine, nothing would add it. I just know the test isn't easy to nail on first test so wanted to make sure you got a consistent result
As long as you just added liquid chlorine, nothing would add it. I just know the test isn't easy to nail on first test so wanted to make sure you got a consistent result
Ok. Just added another 2 gal of 8.25% liquid chlorine. Will test for all tomorrow morning. The CYA test, in the Taylor K-2006 is just a visual. When the "black dot" disappears, read the CYA level, right?
Yep, you got it right.
Make sure you do it with sun out, have you back to sun and put tube at waist height with body shading the tube and look at tube to see if you see dot. Fill it up 10 increments at a time until you no longer see dot.
I've had a DE filter and a sand filter. The DE does filter finer particles, but when clearing a swamp it had to be opened up, hosed off, and re-charged multiple times a day. My filter did not have a backwash feature and the bump knob gained me maybe an extra 15 minutes. Because I am very busy and somewhat lazy (or visa-versa) I have had to clear a swamp multiple times. DE is great when the pool is clean, but a real pain clearing a swamp!
I bought my sand filter second hand, including sand. Backwashing made it so much easier to manage during a slam, but it did take longer to filter out the dead algae. Everyday filtering with sand is great, and you probably would not notice any difference in water clarity compared to DE using clean pools. Just stick with the slam, filter 24/7, and I predict you will see a big difference in clarity within a couple of days.
I bought my sand filter second hand, including sand. Backwashing made it so much easier to manage during a slam, but it did take longer to filter out the dead algae. Everyday filtering with sand is great, and you probably would not notice any difference in water clarity compared to DE using clean pools. Just stick with the slam, filter 24/7, and I predict you will see a big difference in clarity within a couple of days.
Ok here we are:
Ph >8.0
CC 0.5
FC 28
Alk 220
CYA 80
Which of these are reliable with a FC of 28? Should I Treat for ANYTHING right now?
Ph >8.0
CC 0.5
FC 28
Alk 220
CYA 80
Which of these are reliable with a FC of 28? Should I Treat for ANYTHING right now?
Not just yet. Beta is closed. Developers are working on getting Apple approval and, once that is done, it will be released for both Apple and Android devices.
UPDATE:
If you read one of the later entries in the thread it talks about how to format a CSV file that can be imported to the app. There is even a template you can download. If you start entering test results into that template you'll be able to import it into the app once released.