Vegas OB! Just got plans back and need some feedback (pics included :) )

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IMAZ1218 said:
Will,

One thing I know about concrete here in our environment, is that in July and august it's going to be HOT! I've had a couple of friends with stamped concrete pool decks here and you can't walk on it bare foot. If they put some sort of spray deck on it you'll be fine.
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Sounds like you and my wife had a talk before me and you did lol. She said the SAME thing and is concerned about slipping as well . I told our guy I want coping like yours and found out it's not possible ;(
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The concrete is poured in place (PIP). The forms are laid to follow the contours of your pool. It can be finished like any other concrete surface. Typically, it is sandblasted. It can also be colored. See Davis Colors. There are also a number of edge treatments to suit the style of your pool. With more contemporary style pools, the square edge is common.

Joints are cut in the concrete coping to make it appear like individual pieces. Poolside, concrete coping will look thicker, more substantial than the travertine coping.

You can also cap any retaining walls, bond beam walls, or freestanding walls with PIP for a consistent look from coping to walls caps. As a wall cap, it looks more substantial than travertine.
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So is concrete coping stronger than travertine ? And I appreciate the advice and feedback . Also like IMAZ said it gets HOT and being in that my wife doesn't want accidents by the pool.
Do I have any other choices


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What about what joanniern did? Owner/builder SoCal - Page 18

I would think you could add a broom finish to it to make it not slippery. The heat I cannot help with though. Seeing as it is only the coping people would only stand on it for small periods of time. If they want to sit on the edge of the pool they would want a towel no matter what the coping is made of.

The small cuts do not bother me (not my fav) BUT the skill of you installers have to be up there to make sure it looks good. Suz had to have her spa redone as the first guy's skills were not up to the task. The second guy nailed it though!

The poured in place like talked about above could be colored and broom swept to give it more grip. I like the idea of the smooth finish on the inside at least for comfort of leaning against it while inside the pool.

:hug: SO many decisions!

Kim:kim:
 
You can get the exact same look as what you wanted originally by choosing precast coping like mine. It may get hot but everything will in your area. Just hose it off or jump over it and into the pool on those days [emoji23]

Since travertine is so smooth I personally don't know if I'd pick the stamped finish like what your builder showed you. The sand finish looks almost exactly like the coping in your first pic and it isn't slippery at all


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Big Will said:
Sounds like you and my wife had a talk before me and you did lol. She said the SAME thing and is concerned about slipping as well . I told our guy I want coping like yours and found out it's not possible ;(


So is concrete coping stronger than travertine ? And I appreciate the advice and feedback . Also like IMAZ said it gets HOT and being in that my wife doesn't want accidents by the pool.
Do I have any other choices


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Strength with either concrete or travertine should not be an issue.

Structurally, the only advantage of concrete (PIP) is that there is no seam between the bond beam and the concrete coping. No seam, nowhere for water to go, nothing to take care of. At least, that is how it has been explained to me.

As to how hot it gets, yes, it will get hotter than travertine. That's the one advantage of travertine here that I can see.

If your main concern, however, is the number of cuts with travertine, concrete PIP would solve that problem.

Precast concrete pieces might also do the trick since the cuts would be minimized at the factory (I would think). Precast pieces have the advantage that you don't have to worry about the quality of the concrete contractor. If the contractor doesn't do it right, you can have excessive cracking, far outside the joint lines.
 
Thank you all for the help and advice, I really appreciate it!
The boss has spoken and she said "I don't want to burn if I sit on the poolside and don't want my little angels burning either" I told her those little devils she calls angels should be use to heat hahaha.
So we are going to go with small cut travertine [emoji51]


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Great to see things working out. Coming to agreement on all the variables can be challenging and stressful. You want it all to be a great experience and I am sure everyone will be thrilled once the first kid gets to do a cannonball into the new pool (in a couple of weeks). :)
 
SPL said:
Great to see things working out. Coming to agreement on all the variables can be challenging and stressful. You want it all to be a great experience and I am sure everyone will be thrilled once the first kid gets to do a cannonball into the new pool (in a couple of weeks). :)
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That statement is so true, but just like everyone else it's so nerve wrecking because you never know if you picked the right things or if it will look like your vision until it's done.
But we're blessed to be able to put a pool in so I won't sweat the small stuff that much and my process has been seamless so I have no complaints
Bring on the Vegas sun..... well after another 3-4 weeks lol


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So it looks like we will start waterline tile tomorrow which is very exciting. So I just spent the last hour and some change cleaning up the pool and the area around it. I'm hoping by giving the workers a fresh start and leaving a trash can (I can't stand the trash lol) that they will keep everything perfect and clean... or at least use the can lol

All cleaned and even broke out the measure tape. I swear the pool is 7ft deep but it doesn't seem like that when I'm in the deep end lol. I had to even double check to be sure, guess I'm just a little taller than average

My puppy investigating his new pool



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That is what you get for eating your green beans! You grow TALL! LOL

Now go measure from the bottom to the where the water will fall (halfway up the skimmer face). THAT is how deep the water will be.

Do you think the puppy will get in the water?

Kim:kim:
 
kimkats said:
That is what you get for eating your green beans! You grow TALL! LOL

Now go measure from the bottom to the where the water will fall (halfway up the skimmer face). THAT is how deep the water will be.

Do you think the puppy will get in the water?

Kim:kim:
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The pool is around 8ft at the deepest part to the top of the wall so I figure after plaster and where the waterline will meet it will be around 7ft to 7ft 3 inches. I'm very happy with the depth especially since I have 2 boys and there is a lot of boys in my neighborhood. You can always tell them "don't jump or run around the pool" but we all know the minute you blink or look away they will be jumping off anything they can find
And Bear (my puppy) will get in the water, he loves water and also loves to follow the kids anywhere they go. He's in the house most of the time but every summer we buy him a kitty pool and he will just go outside and lay and play in it. I will need to invest into something to help filter the dog hair cause I know he will be in all the time


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Kim beat me to it with the hair nets. They are a must. I read about them here and started using them for when my granddog comes to visit from Oregon. He's a very short haired dog. Still I didn't want fur in my filter cartridges. I couldn't believe how much the hairnets caught! He sheds in the pool far more than I guessed. I got in the habit of using them - so much easier than rinsing out the skimmer basket. In Houston, I get tons of little debris that gets caught in those little holes in the basket - hairnets make it easy peasy. I'm shocked at how much the hairnets even filter out fine dirt - didn't think I got much flying dirt around here! I change them once a week, but scoop out the pine needles twice or more between.

This is what I do - place a small fist-size rock in the bottom of the basket (makes the basket sink instead of sitting wonky in the skimmer). Then I place the hairnet in the basket. Last, I snap in the silver bar going across the top of the basket fitting into the 2 notches on the rim. The bar keeps the hairnet snug. At least I have a bar - maybe there are other types. Between the hairnets, robot, and tfp water management, my water is gorgeous!!!

Handsome everyone in the photos!! But Kim, I don't think it will be long before those kiddos are tossing their dad in the pool!!! Lol!
 
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Kim beat me to it with the hair nets. They are a must. I read about them here and started using them for when my granddog comes to visit from Oregon. He's a very short haired dog. Still I didn't want fur in my filter cartridges. I couldn't believe how much the hairnets caught! He sheds in the pool far more than I guessed. I got in the habit of using them - so much easier than rinsing out the skimmer basket. In Houston, I get tons of little debris that gets caught in those little holes in the basket - hairnets make it easy peasy. I'm shocked at how much the hairnets even filter out fine dirt - didn't think I got much flying dirt around here! I change them once a week, but scoop out the pine needles twice or more between.

This is what I do - place a small fist-size rock in the bottom of the basket (makes the basket sink instead of sitting wonky in the skimmer). Then I place the hairnet in the basket. Last, I snap in the silver bar going across the top of the basket fitting into the 2 notches on the rim. The bar keeps the hairnet snug. At least I have a bar - maybe there are other types. Between the hairnets, robot, and tfp water management, my water is gorgeous!!!

Handsome everyone in the photos!! But Kim, I don't think it will be long before those kiddos are tossing their dad in the pool!!! Lol!
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Thanks for the detailed explanation it really helps cause I had no idea how to use them. I'm going to order now so I'm ready to go when we put water in. I often read stuff on here and don't get it and sometimes I don't want to ask for the sake of not sounding pool smart lol
My kids still have a little while to go before they can toss there old man into the pool. But I'm sure on day I will no longer be the superhero they think I am and I will be more like Al Bundy and then they will be on top lol
And I love your pool suz and I swear I had my popcorn and tissue ready as I read your thread. It was definitely my entertainment for a few nights and I'm so glad you had a happy ending. Your build helped me so much so I'm very thankful for members like you


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So sorry I was a little slow to post pics but they started tile and they are just about done with waterline tile and I must say that I'm happy about the way it looks. I have not told the wife that cause then I will never hear the end of it but I was a good husband and let her pick and she did a excellent job.
I will say I'm not sure why there is a double tile line on spa since I'm doing a tiered rock spillway but I'm sure it will come out good



Looking forward to the stone going in next


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