The light has fallen out of the pool and is hanging in the deep end. How much of a problem is this? New pool owner here first post. Isn’t that special

[Mark of Roshar]

So, just like the title says, pool light is hanging by its cord in the deep end. Our pool was installed late last summer so not even a year old. We recently got a Dolphin Cayman vacuum that I had gotten a lot of advice and good info from here about.

I have so many questions I don’t even know where to start. Can this be fixed without draining? Is it a safety hazard to be around? (Not in the pool yet this year so that’s not a worry.) what sort of cost am I looking at? Has this happened to anyone else?is it the “fault” of the vac? Shouldn’t a pool light be able to handle a pool vac going over it?

I worked so hard and was so diligent to get the pool good for this season! I’m furious, yet again, at the builder. All I want to do is enjoy my pool! Please, please, please help me with any advice, info, or whatever.

Hope everyone is having a better day than me!
-Mark

 

[ajw22]

It's not a big problem. The light can be reattached without draining the pool.

I am unsure what model light it is and how it attaches to the niche.

Call your Pool Builder and he should fix it.

 

[Mark of Roshar]

It's not a big problem. The light can be reattached without draining the pool.

I am unsure what model light it is and how it attaches to the niche.

Call your Pool Builder and he should fix it.

Thank you!! I hate that this is my first post, but I greatly appreciate the help!! I just hope my builder is still willing to honor a warranty that should still be in effect. They started out great, but ended terribly and then took no responsibility for their mistakes or our concerns at the end.

Hopefully since it isn’t too big a deal (I guess) then they’ll be willing to do it. Fingers crossed.

 

[ajw22]

Someone just needs to get in the water to secure the light back in the niche.

 

[Mark of Roshar]

Someone just needs to get in the water to secure the light back in the niche.

Oh, ok then. Is that something I could do? I’m a construction worker and pretty knowledgeable about things like that and electricity. I certainly don’t know enough electrical to have known I could just jump in and refit it to the housing though. Any special tool needed? Or does it just sit inside interlocking tabs or something?

Sorry, I know you don’t know what kind it is so you won’t know specific detail. I’m just glad to hear it isn’t a major problem or a safety hazard to be around the outside of the pool if it’s wet from rain or whatever. My whole system was pentair so I imagine the light is too, but that’s just a guess.

Thanks so much again for all your help!!

 

[ajw22]

Jump into the water, grab the light, and bring it up onto the edge of the pool.

Take a picture of the light so we can figure out what model it is and how it is secured.

You should be able to put it back in once we know what are are dealing with.

 

[Bperry]

Oh, ok then. Is that something I could do? I’m a construction worker and pretty knowledgeable about things like that and electricity. I certainly don’t know enough electrical to have known I could just jump in and refit it to the housing though. Any special tool needed? Or does it just sit inside interlocking tabs or something?

Sorry, I know you don’t know what kind it is so you won’t know specific detail. I’m just glad to hear it isn’t a major problem or a safety hazard to be around the outside of the pool if it’s wet from rain or whatever. My whole system was pentair so I imagine the light is too, but that’s just a guess.

Thanks so much again for all your help!!

Usually those lights are supposed to float…so you don’t have to get in the water. Model number would help.

 

[Bill1974]

As Bperry state the light should float. Check to make sure there is no water in it. Would may need to replace the gasket and dry out the inside. Also check the ring in the pool wall to make sure the light can be installed in it. I am not sure how the mounting is on your model, but the metal ring Pentair version the tab with the threaded hole has a tendency to break or strip out if ice gets behind it and pushes the light out of the niche. Then the water needs to be lowered and the ring replaced. It can all be done without getting in the pool. Just don't drop anything.

 

[ajw22]

the metal ring Pentair version the tab with the threaded hole has a tendency to break or strip out if ice gets behind it and pushes the light out of the niche. Then the water needs to be lowered and the ring replaced.

A Pool Light Wedge can anchor the light without replacing the ring.

 

[Mark of Roshar]

Wow!! I really appreciate all the help. I had read so many times how helpful and friendly everyone here is, but it’s another thing to experience it for myself. So thank you to everyone!!

I am including a couple of pics to give some ideas of what the model and overall set up is. It definitely does NOT float. There also doesn’t appear to be anywhere for water to really infiltrate the housing either because of the indented back side. Though I know water will go wherever it Dang well pleases. Haha! In one of the pics I also pointed out a large bolt that looks like it might tighten the restraining ring, but not sure.

We didn’t have any ice this year in Georgia so not sure if that suggestion needs addressing or not. I haven’t gotten in the pool yet to look at the inside, but from above I managed to see what appears to be an incredible amount of Georgia red clay sitting at the bottom of the ring.

Please let me know what y’all think. And thanks again to everyone who has responded, helped, or offered any advice at all. I really do appreciate it! I was actually able to go to bed last night without this hanging over my head thanks to you!!!

 

[mknauss]

IntelliBrite® Architectural Series Pool and Spa Lighting

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[JamesW]

602180

Pool

White

120V

31W

150

500W

Available through Dealer

Made Feb 05 2024.

 

[JamesW]

79104800z Pilot Screw, Brass
619355z Pilot Screw, Stainless

https://www.pentair.com/content/dam/extranet/nam/pentair-pool/residential/lighting/intellibrite-architectural-series/user-manuals/intellibrite-arc-series-manual-618070.pdf

 

[JamesW]

 

[Bperry]

Wow!! I really appreciate all the help. I had read so many times how helpful and friendly everyone here is, but it’s another thing to experience it for myself. So thank you to everyone!!

I am including a couple of pics to give some ideas of what the model and overall set up is. It definitely does NOT float. There also doesn’t appear to be anywhere for water to really infiltrate the housing either because of the indented back side. Though I know water will go wherever it Dang well pleases. Haha! In one of the pics I also pointed out a large bolt that looks like it might tighten the restraining ring, but not sure.

We didn’t have any ice this year in Georgia so not sure if that suggestion needs addressing or not. I haven’t gotten in the pool yet to look at the inside, but from above I managed to see what appears to be an incredible amount of Georgia red clay sitting at the bottom of the ring.

Please let me know what y’all think. And thanks again to everyone who has responded, helped, or offered any advice at all. I really do appreciate it! I was actually able to go to bed last night without this hanging over my head thanks to you!!!

There’s a watertight gasket on that and so if the gasket is working, it’s hard to imagine how that thing would not float.

 

[JamesW]

There’s a watertight gasket on that and so if the gasket is working, it’s hard to imagine how that thing would not float.

It depends on the density of the light.

There is no reason to automatically expect the light to float.

Older lights had a lot of air, so they would generally float.

An LED light is built differently, so it is more compact.

 

[Mark of Roshar]

You are all so amazing! I flipped the light breaker, refitted the light, and then turned the breaker back on before testing. It all worked great!!

I have attached a few low quality pics I pulled from a video because I couldn’t really get a pic from in the water and this website isn’t letting me upload a video. (Pic 1): As far as I could tell, the housing it mounts too has only ONE hole to hold it! The video doesn’t show it very well because I was struggling to keep myself underwater and shoot, but the only hole I could find is at the very top. None on the bottom or sides. There is a white plastic “spacer” ring that is holding the vinyl in place around the opening. Because of that spacer, and what it felt like as I put it back in, the screw is just a bit too short. It only holds by a few threads basically and like I said is the only screw hole available for mounting. That alone seems stupid to me, but whatever.

If I get another longer screw, what type should it be considering I have a saltwater system? Stainless is what I’m assuming, but if not then let me know what would be better. I also noticed after getting pics from the video that the tag says fresh water only! Should I be concerned with that? (Last pic)

Thanks again to everyone for your help, info, and suggestions!!!

 

[ajw22]

Pentair has specific brass or stainless steel screws for the light. Brass is best.



You have a freshwater pool. They are referring to ocean water with 30,000 ppm of salt.

Picture Posting and Resizing - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

 

[JamesW]

The red dot is the screw hole.

The blue dot is a tab that slips behind the niche tab and then the light is held in place by the screw.

 

[JamesW]