SWCG Replacement Suggestions

Rodex

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Jun 2, 2019
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Mansfield, TX
Pool Size
11000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
CircuPool Edge-25
We have another issue with our Edge 25, this time it’s looking like the control module. If I had to guess, the cheap plastic on the control module housing has cracked in multiple spots and we got wild rain a couple days ago. I bet it leaked in and is causing the issues we are seeing.

I’m waiting on a call back from Circupool to confirm, but if that is the case, we will be eyeballing switching to another brand.

What are some alternates people have had good experiences with?
 
Circupool RJ seems to be the most robust of their products.

Each SWG system has its weakenesses. You pay your money and take your chances.
 
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Circupool RJ seems to be the most robust of their products.

Each SWG system has its weakenesses. You pay your money and take your chances.
It wasn’t the cost that I chose the Edge, someone suggested it over the RJ, but I don’t remember why.

My Edge 25 has a lot of weaknesses, for what it’s worth.
 
What are they? It may be helpful to others.
I’ve posted about them before, but off the top of my ahead:
  1. The cell should not be mounted horizontally despite their claims it can be.
  2. The nuts are not well designed - the plastic flexes so that any pressure will cause a leak. (They knew about this and only fixed new product, not old, but the new nuts still suck.)
  3. The control module housing plastic is cheap and gets brittle. The mount puts pressure on this plastic and it cracks over time.
  4. The cables weren’t built well and I had to tighten them up out of the box. Minor issue but seemed odd.
  5. Not specific to the Edge, but their suggestion of acid washing the plates seems to make things worse (I had the same experience as it seems others have had here, and had to buy a new cell).
It might be no better for other models, I have no idea, but I’d happy to take some suggestions.
 
I’ve posted about them before, but off the top of my ahead:
  1. The cell should not be mounted horizontally despite their claims it can be.
  2. The nuts are not well designed - the plastic flexes so that any pressure will cause a leak. (They knew about this and only fixed new product, not old, but the new nuts still suck.)
  3. The control module housing plastic is cheap and gets brittle. The mount puts pressure on this plastic and it cracks over time.
  4. The cables weren’t built well and I had to tighten them up out of the box. Minor issue but seemed odd.
  5. Not specific to the Edge, but their suggestion of acid washing the plates seems to make things worse (I had the same experience as it seems others have had here, and had to buy a new cell).
It might be no better for other models, I have no idea, but I’d happy to take some suggestions.
#5 is common and terrible advice. It’s good for the manufacturer because it makes the cell fail sooner.
 
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Circupool RJ seems to be the most robust of their products.
I'd second the RJ series. This will be the 4th year, plates are clean as a whistle (I manage my CSI and never get scale).
Very robust and doesn't miss a beat.
 
The control module housing plastic is cheap and gets brittle. The mount puts pressure on this plastic and it cracks over time.
Despite them being made for outdoor use, they should not be exposed to direct sunlight and water. Find a nice shady area or build a shelter to protect the controller.
 

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I’ve posted about them before, but off the top of my ahead:
  1. The cell should not be mounted horizontally despite their claims it can be.
  2. The nuts are not well designed - the plastic flexes so that any pressure will cause a leak. (They knew about this and only fixed new product, not old, but the new nuts still suck.)
  3. The control module housing plastic is cheap and gets brittle. The mount puts pressure on this plastic and it cracks over time.
  4. The cables weren’t built well and I had to tighten them up out of the box. Minor issue but seemed odd.
  5. Not specific to the Edge, but their suggestion of acid washing the plates seems to make things worse (I had the same experience as it seems others have had here, and had to buy a new cell).
It might be no better for other models, I have no idea, but I’d happy to take some suggestions.
Just purchased edge, what are the issues that you had mounting horizontally?
 
Just purchased edge, what are the issues that you had mounting horizontally?
The coupling nut creates a leak once the cell is full of water. Someone else here devised a way to support the PVC right at the nut, but it takes a bit of finagling to get the height right. Once you get the height right, it should help. Some others used hose clamps but that didn’t work for me. Some others cut a section out of the coupler and then used a hose clamp so that it tightened up around the threads, but I haven’t tried that yet.
 
I see...new one to me.

LMTOYPACOTOUVRLPCHTEIL

If you're not a zillion years old, you'll know that means:
Like most things on your pad, a coat or two of UV resistant latex paint can help to extend its life.

Even in the shade, UV can get to your stuff.
 
LMTOYPACOTOUVRLPCHTEIL

If you're not a zillion years old, you'll know that means:
Like most things on your pad, a coat or two of UV resistant latex paint can help to extend its life.

Even in the shade, UV can get to your stuff.
I must be a zillion years old, I guess.

What exactly are you suggesting to paint?Painting over a control box seems like it would void the warranty of a new unit.
 
What exactly are you suggesting to paint?Painting over a control box seems like it would void the warranty of a new unit.
Yes, I was suggesting painting the box. And yes, it might void the warranty. You could call the manufacturer to inquire about that. Or you could wait to paint it on the day after the warranty expires.

I'm waiting out the warranty on several of my surveillance cams. I don't like their color. As soon as the warranty expires, I'll paint the inside ones the color of the ceiling, and the outside ones the color of my stucco.

I have a control box at my pad for my Pentair IntellipH. It gets a lot of sun. I've anticipated its failure and have gotten a hold of a failed unit from a fellow TFPer. When the current box gets too bad, I'll swap its guts into the box of the failed one, and get many more years out of it.

For other things in my yard, I use a cheap piece of flashing to block the sun. From Lowes, and it's already painted. In some cases, I used it flat, as is. In other cases I bent it into the shape of a little roof, to shed both sun and rain.


Flashing comes in all shapes and sizes, some pre-bent. Steel or aluminum. Relatively easy to work with, especially the aluminum, which won't rust.

For my exterior home automation components (indoor-only gizmos that I needed outside), I mounted them into a weather-proof box. Available on Amazon in all shapes and sizes. I just painted two of them the other day, because when I mounted the new one next to the old one, I realized the box was getting hit too much by the UV. They protect my gizmos from sun and rain, and don't impact their warranty. I drilled holes in the bottoms of the boxes, to pass cables through PVC conduit. And then I painted the PVC conduit, too.


Before the new one went in, so before paint:

junction box.jpg

Lots of ways to skin this cat...

Other outdoor UV tips:

- I no longer use zip-ties outside, even the UV-rated ones. I use stainless steel wire, impervious to the elements, that will outlast me:


- I've covered all the cables on my pad with wire loom. The loom fails eventually from UV, but I figure I'd rather replace some very cheap loom once every few years, than more expensive, more labor-intensive cables, or have to throw away an expensive component because of its irreplaceable cable. When I bundled a bunch of those cables together, I used a chunk of pool vacuum hose as a UV blocker.

pad wire loom.jpg


I have hundreds of feet of this stuff, all over my yard, protecting wires and cables.
 
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Circupool repaired the unit at 40% cost under warranty. Bad main board, cost me $350.

Lasted one hour after install.

The SWCG really hasn’t saved me money at all, probably a small loss if my accounting was correct. It’s saved me some time, I’m sure, but I’ve also spent a lot of time managing this finicky system, and that’s pretty frustrating when it ultimately doesn’t work and doesn’t save any money.

I’m on the fence about going back to liquid chlorine.
 

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