Suds and body oil on pool surface

[Swampwoman]

What are your chem parameters right now? Is it possible to perform a partial drain to dilute whatever is causing the foaming? You completed the SLAM, right? Cleaned your filter?

I wonder if its possible you have a small air leak in your return lines? Is there a specific area the foaming always starts?

 

[Joedirt34]

Fc 15
Cc .5 maybe ?
Cya 0
Ch 170 ( pushing up )
Ph 7.4 ( at start of this slam)
Started slam again yesterday already see 100 percent difference no bubbles on sidewall this am and no suds at all
And yes I did finish the last slam
Always shows up in dead circulation spots and water action over it makes its disappear

 

[zethacat]

Did you clean the filter yet?

 

[Joedirt34]

Not sure what you mean when you say cleaned . I have backwashed them .

 

[zethacat]

Sounds like you may need to do a deep clean. Heres a good place to start:

http://www.troublefreepool.com/threads/73192-Deep-Cleaning-a-Sand-Filter

Also the cloudiness you described a few posts ago sounds like maybe you have some DE in the pool.

 

[Joedirt34]

I did open the filter and looked didn't see anything other than sand guess I need to look again . Not sure what the DE would look like ( I see nothing coming out of the jets ). I have done a very slow vacuumed for the last couple of days with no change in filter pressure

 

[zethacat]

Well, I am not sure what dead algae looks like .. but I know what DE looks like at the bottom of my pool, because I had a filter problem recently that backwashed clean DE into the pool (I had just put it in to the filter). Now it's sitting at the bottom of my pool. I can't even see it unless I brush the pool. The pool is crystal clear, and can even see the bottom, but while brushing I can see a cloud of DE billowing up at the sides of the brush.

 

[Joedirt34]

When I bush I think I'm just seeing air bubbles . Would the DE with brushing be very east to see ? And when you do do it does it float to the surface ?

 

[zethacat]

I can't even tell the DE is there unless I brush, and I can barely see it clouding up while brushing during the day. I can see it much better when brushing at night while the pool light is on. Aside from brushing, I can't even tell it's there.

 

[kimkats]

I still think you should take your old sand out and put new sand in. My reasoning is that some of whatever is messing with your pool may be trapped in the sand. Nothing is as clean as new so..............

 

[PAGirl]

Do you think a drain might be the only way to rid the pool of the effects of the Splashless bleach?

 

[Joedirt34]

So pulled filters apart today I have 2 inline a 300 and a 450 something about the sand in the 450 seemed off . Not sharp but very dull so I changed it . The first filter sand seemed fine no change ran a hose in it for awhile nothing came up or out . I did find an air leak on the suction side . Not thinking that was my problem but It may be adding to the problem .
A full water change has crossed my mind but I'm on a very high water table and I could have total structure failure . It was not fun to watch during the last liner change!
I'm hoping this sand change will put the Polish on it .
Don't get me wrong I've had 75% improvement just taking along time .

 

[zethacat]

I would suggest running the pump 24/7 until the suds disappear. I think you'll notice a huge difference now that you've changed the sand.

 

[Joedirt34]

I hope you are correct ! Also it always runs 24/7

 

[PAGirl]

I meant a partial drain, sorry....

 

[Joedirt34]

24 hours later huge difference problem is gone ! I did find a small air leak that I think was adding to my problem .

 

[zethacat]

Sweet. I would still take heed to the repeated recommendation of bringing your CYA up to the 20-30 range.

 

[Swampwoman]

Excellent news about finding the leak. Ditto the recommended small raise to cya.
Can you still have the party now?
Either way I'm jealous, as my pool is closed now for winter and I really miss my daily swim!

 

[Joedirt34]

Party has been and gone . My only issue now is according to a freaind in the pool industry is I have to much oxygen in my water that is making the pool look cloudy whn you stir it up . Claims it an emzym product I used and only time will solve it .
Does this make sense ?

 

[Swampwoman]

If your friend has noticed this response in other instances of enzyme over-use, then he may be onto something
Chlorine does knock enzymes out, as I'm give to understand, and you recently shocked, so I don't now if the dx on cloudiness is accurate in your case or not, but do know hat when things like sequestrant, enzymes, phosphate removers "bind" to molecules, as each is designed to do, it can sometimes lead to cloudiness that takes a few days of filtering to clear.

You've also just added calcium, which might be binding. I am not terrifically well-versed in chemical reactions (its all empirical trial and lotsa error with me) so don't put too much stock in my musings aloud

I think my inclination in keeping with your friend's recc would be to check your levels, stabilize that chlorine then keep the level up to make sure you're not getting nascent algae cloudiness, maintain a bit of hardness to offset soft water, wait a week and see if the periodic cloudiness is gone via filtering and if at the same time the foaming remains controlled. I suspect you'll be golden