Startup plaster and chemicals

[PoolGate]

Ha ha yeah no.... I got the same crappy plastic POSs. They will sag badly stressing your pipes. Mine do. I am waiting for the plumbing to crack. They are total garbage but a lot cheaper than a poured pad. If you can still change to poured, I would.

 

[ajw22]

Is this base/equipment pad adequate?

What @PoolGate said. The plastic pads are not going to last like a concrete pad.

The major problem is the equipment over two pads which will shift independly.

Those pads are often used with AC systems with the assumption that the plastic pad will last as long as the outdoor unit and both will be replaced together. That does not work well for pool equipment with multiple devices piped together.

I am thinking the products sitting on top may require a concrete base to meet their installation instructions.

I don’t think you will find any requirements in installation manuals.

 

[Poolparty2022]

Going on a couple months of no work at the site (almost a year in to the build) due to cold weather but looks like warm weather is coming shortly. PB now says they can’t add the booster pump due to size of spa (7’ diameter) and drain locations required to meet VGB compliance (3’ separation) and it was a mistake in the contract/design. This is the 3rd person at their company trying to resolve the issue. They are offering a credit (roughly 15% of spa cost) but I’m curious if there are any other alternatives besides a credit or redoing the spa and making it larger. Early on, PB also busted a jet and used hydraulic cement on the gunite spa shell.

If going the credit route, I am curious if I’m missing out on any functionality besides stronger jets. Their ‘senior’ person, who is the most recent person to do a site visit, says the booster pump is unnecessary. Current pump is jandy VSP 2.7hp with separate blower but isn’t the Pump water flow constrained by the filter, heater, and SWCG? The booster spec is 2HP. Looking for thoughts, pros, cons, etc

 

[Poolparty2022]

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1. you already did it, ditch the Fusion soft... at 12k gallons the pure 1400 (40k gallons pool) will work great for you... and you will get the warranty

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2. get rid of the Polaris tr36p cleaner and get a robot.. pressure side cleaners cost more money because you have to run another pump to clean the pool and you really do not want tech from the 1970's.. A robot can clean your pool for 2 hours and cost 20 cents.. The S200 should do great, give marina pool a call and they will help you through what you want and need..

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3. ask for 2 skimmers (preferably where the wind blows) and no main drain in the bottom of the pool

4. point the lights away from the house or seating position so they do not blind you when looking at the pool

Hope this helps

S200 arrived from marina yesterday. I have been on the waitlist for months!

 

[Poolparty2022]

Tile and coping today…!

 

[Toxophilite]

Current pump is jandy VSP 2.7hp with separate blower but isn’t the Pump water flow constrained by the filter, heater, and SWCG? The booster spec is 2HP. Looking for thoughts, pros, cons, etc

Thoughts? Mine is off main pump, six jets, and can't imagine sitting in front of any more pressure.

 

[Poolparty2022]

Any suggestions on handling the next few days of rain (including .5” tonight) for the recent coping and tiling curing?

 

[PoolGate]

Any suggestions on handling the next few days of rain (including .5” tonight) for the recent coping and tiling curing?

Rain won't hurt it.

 

[TX2OBX]

Just for curiosity's sake. Why are the suction and return sides tied together on the plumbing? or is that an optical illusion?

 

[klanel]

no main drain in the bottom of the pool

Wondering why you recommend no main drains in the pool?

 

[Poolparty2022]

Just for curiosity's sake. Why are the suction and return sides tied together on the plumbing? or is that an optical illusion?

It may be an illusion. When pipe was laid, they were separate until merging at equipment pad.

 

[Cknitts]

I have got a 7ft spa and run the same pump to the spa with 6 jets. I have an air intake pipe with no blower and the jets are perfect. When in spa mode the pump is turned up to 3450 rpm to get the pressure right. During our build process the builder said this was the norm and we would only need a booster pump if we were adding more than 6 jets but we opted out of that because it was about 6 grand for a booster pump and 6 additional jets for a total of 12. Look at your contract and itemize everything for the credit, it will probable be more than 15%.

 

[cowboycasey]

Wondering why you recommend no main drains in the pool?

Most of the time they leak in the long run and have to be closed permanently.. There are some that really like them so it is your choice.

 

[klanel]

Most of the time they leak in the long run

If it does, that will be a reminder that 'the builder was here' Hope I don't have that issue but time will tell.

 

[ajw22]

Most of the time they leak in the long run and have to be closed permanently..

I think is few, not most. You don't hear about all the main drains that keep on working fine.

30+ years of owning pools with main drains and they never leaked.

There are some that really like them so it is your choice.

I think main drains have a benefit in pools that have a deep end.

The type of sport pools that are popular now with 4 - 5 - 4' depths don't benefit from main drain circulation.

So rather then a blanket statement I think it depends on the design of the pool.

 

[Newdude]

Hope I don't have that issue but time will

Alot of the 'bad' ones out there were done in the 70s and 80s. Alot of poly / sprinkler pipe was used. If you don't replace the plumbing on your 3rd replaster just because, well, that's on you if it fails.

Their chemistry sucked too. Does that make chlorine bad ?

 

[cowboycasey]

@Newdude I need to stop inferring "all" when I mean a few..

 

[Newdude]

@Newdude I need to stop inferring "all" when I mean a few..

They *will* all fail. No question. Modern practices sure help the lifespan though.

 

[Poolparty2022]

Added 200 sq ft more pavers (4’ wide path on back side of pool to make a full path around the pool) to the contract since there was a fixed price per sq ft option written into the contract! that sq ft price has likely increased quite a bit so well worth another month or so of waiting for material

 

[Poolparty2022]

Should there be concerns about the skimmer not being encased in concrete prior to decking going in? 1 skimmer has been encased (background) and the other was less so (foreground arrow)