Spa Spillover piping

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A1857B2F-2EC4-4FE8-A59B-8DE976987471.jpegE62351A8-8EFA-4F2B-A6A9-31D3504DF592.jpegHello! Looking for some help here! We have (I believe) a latham 90” fiberglass spillover spa in a home we purchased last year. Leak detection company came out and said the spa jet lines aren’t holding pressure, and also noted a leak in the shallow end return and valved it off. We dug down 2.5-3 feet in the area that the piping diagram says the pump system should enter the spa but found no pipes!! The whole thing is foam insulated so reaching our hands under the shell and feeling around doesn’t help! I’m wondering if there’s a better place to dig to find the leaking line. Or a better way to be more educated on where to start .
 

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Welcome to TFP.

I would not take that diagram so literally assuming the pipes must enter the spa from that side.

Have you called Latham and asked if they can send you a picture of what the bottom of an uninstalled spa looks like? Or find some Latham dealer and talk to folks who install them?

I suspect the pipes just come out the bottom and they can be connected from any side.

I think you need to dig around the spa until you find the pipes. You may also find the leaks are within the pipes encapsulated by the foam.

Let's see if @RDspaguy has ever put his hands on one of these.
 
Let's see if @RDspaguy has ever put his hands on one of these.
Specifically, no. But it's just an insulated inground tub, it's not rocket science.
"Leak detection" is like saying "electrical component", it could mean anything. From the diagnosis and lack of location I'm guessing you had a pressure test, which can tell you what part of the system is leaking but not where that leak is physically located in your system. To me, leak detection uses much more specific and sophisticated methods and equipment to locate a specific leak, and these would be the best way to locate yours.
That said, the fact that the spa does not hold pressure is not at all surprising and does not in itself indicate a water leak, depending on how the system was plugged to pressure test it. Every jet has an air line that, with water flowing through the venturi built into the jet, will become a vacuum, drawing in air from a pipe run and valve not designed to hold pressure. To isolate these lines is difficult if not impossible depending on specifics, and if unfamiliar with spa plumbing you'd never know how or even that you needed to. So before digging any more I'd verify that it is in fact leaking water, and how much. If your "shalloe end returns" are in a set of fiberglass steps with a knob on top that could be the source of your pressure leak there too.
The pipe connections will be at the bottom, so 2.5 to 3 ft may not be deep enough, but what you have is schematic, not a diagram. There is no guarantee the pipes even all come out on the same side. There is also no guarantee that the leak is not inside the foam insulation.
 
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Thanks guys! We are new to the whole pool ownership, so trying to educate ourselves as we go . We had an electronic leak detection performed because we were losing water from the pool. We also noted that when the spa lines were all turned off that the spa shell itself would lose water. The leak detection report stated "An electronic leak detection was performed on the pool and spa. A leak was located in the shallow end return line behind the bulkhead. The line was valved off at the equipment and plugged inside the wall. A secondary leak was also located in the spa jets". Last year we plugged the spa jets, and turned off those lines at the pump, and were able to operate the pool without leaks all season.

We were trying to see if we could troubleshoot the spa ourselves. I guess we are wondering if it's worth taking a deep dive and trying to find out where exactly the pipe leak is, or just ripping out the fiberglass spa and reinstalling or getting rid of it all together.
 
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I guess we are wondering if it's worth taking a deep dive and trying to find out where exactly the pipe leak is, or just ripping out the fiberglass spa and reinstalling or getting rid of it all together.

I would rip out that spa and if you want a spa install a standalone spa near the house you can use all year.
 
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