So long BBQG, hello TFP

-Greg- said:
Good sound advice Dave! Todd, how did the dryvit work out?
Man, it was SO easy, even a neophyte like me can make it look good. I am really pleased with the outcome and it was so simple to use.

I sprayed a base of their color prime (which I tinted to the same color as the finish), then I applied the finish coat of Sandpebble. It went on like butter and within a couple square feet, I had the basics figured out and was spreading stucco like I'd done it before. And even though it's applied relatively thin, it easily covered the wafer-head screws I used on the Hardibacker board.

For anyone planning on applying a stucco finish to anything, I highly recommend Dryvit's product.

I've uploaded a few pictures: http://s240.photobucket.com/albums/ff14 ... ool%20Bar/

I've started the tiling on the edge and top of the bar. I'm also putting the colored mosaic tile around the lights. Hopefully, I'll get to tiling the counter tops today and grout tomorrow.
 
Since this thread started out as a BBQG thread, I am going to lead us back into that direction. :mrgreen:

The latest developments at BBQG are: the CEO is not going to get his contract renewed and they are weeks away from bankruptsy. I guess the direction he was taking them was downhill. Too bad, I hope they reorganize and get back on track where the customer is number one and the folks that got them there are re-instated. :whip:

Too bad Jeffrey isn't a member of this Forum. :rant:
 
DrDave said:
Since this thread started out as a BBQG thread, I am going to lead us back into that direction. :mrgreen:

The latest developments at BBQG are: the CEO is not going to get his contract renewed and they are weeks away from bankruptsy. I guess the direction he was taking them was downhill. Too bad, I hope they reorganize and get back on track where the customer is number one and the folks that got them there are re-instated. :whip:

Too bad Jeffrey isn't a member of this Forum. :rant:

Thanks for the update DrDave.

The irony is that I ended up with a BBQ Galore model grill because I wanted some stability in terms of parts, etc. Ooooops.
 
With over 2000 employees, I don't think it will go away overnight. I have heard the owners are not happy with the management, that leads me to believe there is hope. Owners can find new execs to run things during a reorganization. I spent 9 years defending and promoting them and the present management threw that out the window. Maybe the owners will realize what made them great to start with and get back to basics.
 
DrDave said:
With over 2000 employees, I don't think it will go away overnight. I have heard the owners are not happy with the management, that leads me to believe there is hope. Owners can find new execs to run things during a reorganization. I spent 9 years defending and promoting them and the present management threw that out the window. Maybe the owners will realize what made them great to start with and get back to basics.
2000 employees....Is that across both their US and Australian locations or just the US?
 
G$ said:
The irony is that I ended up with a BBQ Galore model grill because I wanted some stability in terms of parts, etc. Ooooops.

I'm glad I didn't just design my WHOLE island around BBQG products. :hammer:

I find it interesting that when I went into their store in Fresno, it looked like a ghost town; hardly any bbq's on display, and NO islands.

Great.....

Dr. Dave, when the time comes(not IF) where can we go for replacement parts. Info??? Thanks.
C-Ya!!
 

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Our BBQ Galore store is looking a bit bare as well. It looks like if they have been trimming inventory everywhere.

I still think they make a good product and although my wife can get Firemagic and Vermont Casting grills at a very step discount, I plan on gettting a BBQ Galore grill. This of course depends on the outcome of the pending action.
 
Since I started this particular thread, I thought I'd better post the final pictures of the completed pool bar.

http://s288.photobucket.com/albums/ll17 ... =slideshow

It took much longer than I thought it would. I started in March and between Crud weather and just seriously under-estimating a project like this, I didn't complete it fully until the day of my daughter's "sweet 16" party on June 21 ( I was under strict orders that it HAD to be done by then...or else)

Some things I learned:
* Take your estimated construction time budget and add 50% (it'll still be no where close, but at least you tried to budget your time)
* Steel studs are very easy to work with. Everyone who has never worked with them kept asking, "how come you're not making it out of wood". HA!
* Using the right tool for the right job makes all the difference in the world. Example; I spent $250 on a pair of DeWalt Hardi shears. It was the best money I've ever spent and now they're listed on Craigslist for $200. Anyone need a barely used pair of cement board sheers???
* My angle grinder is my new BFF :-D
* Think ahead, but don't over-think. I spent hours just staring, it seems. Looking and visualizing in my head what I wanted to do and how I wanted to do it.
* Don't be afraid to change or modify your plans. heck, they're only drawings and sketches. If you think of something you want that you didn't think about beforehand, do it. (just make sure there's no negative impacts later on down the line in the building process)
* I'm not s shill for Dryvit Systems, but wholly Crud they make an awesome product. Check them out online. I've never done stucco in my life and I dreaded having to stucco my bar until I spoke to the Dryvit rep. It was not only a piece of cake, it looked Darn professional when I was done, IIDSSM.

I'll add to this list as I think of more, but feel free to contribute to what you've learned after a similar project.

Finally, to all those builders that came before me and shared their knowledge, designs, problems and solutions... THANK YOU. Seriously, I could not have done it without all of you and your willingness to share. I only hope that my experience and these pictures give the next guy some food for thought and some ideas for designing and building their dream.

:goodjob:

Todd.
 
Here is the latest as of Friday 9/12/08. Grand Hall officially took over as the new owner of BBQG. They make the Turbo line for them, that is the good part. The not so good part is the top management has not changed much.

The Turbo line has always been a good grill with parts available even 10 years after the sale.
 
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