all power is off and I am still getting a small shock from hot tub water , any suggestions?
shock from hot tub
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a,
Welcome to TFP... a great place to find the answers to all your "Rose Garden" pool and spa questions...
I suspect that there is a difference in electrical potential between your deck and your electrical ground... I know the power is off, but the ground is most likely still connected... just as a test, disconnect the ground wire, that is going to your spa and see if (with the power still off) you are still getting your small shock..
What type of deck is the tub on? I suspect concrete. I assume you are getting the shock while standing on the deck..
Let us know the results of this test..
Thanks,
Jim R.
Welcome to TFP... a great place to find the answers to all your "Rose Garden" pool and spa questions...
I suspect that there is a difference in electrical potential between your deck and your electrical ground... I know the power is off, but the ground is most likely still connected... just as a test, disconnect the ground wire, that is going to your spa and see if (with the power still off) you are still getting your small shock..
What type of deck is the tub on? I suspect concrete. I assume you are getting the shock while standing on the deck..
Let us know the results of this test..
Thanks,
Jim R.
Thank you for your response. I have main breaker off and pulled the disconnect from the box outside. I am not home right now but will try doing it and let you know.a,
Welcome to TFP... a great place to find the answers to all your "Rose Garden" pool and spa questions...
I suspect that there is a difference in electrical potential between your deck and your electrical ground... I know the power is off, but the ground is most likely still connected... just as a test, disconnect the ground wire, that is going to your spa and see if (with the power still off) you are still getting your small shock..
What type of deck is the tub on? I suspect concrete. I assume you are getting the shock while standing on the deck..
Let us know the results of this test..
Thanks,
Jim R.
deck is trexa,
Welcome to TFP... a great place to find the answers to all your "Rose Garden" pool and spa questions...
I suspect that there is a difference in electrical potential between your deck and your electrical ground... I know the power is off, but the ground is most likely still connected... just as a test, disconnect the ground wire, that is going to your spa and see if (with the power still off) you are still getting your small shock..
What type of deck is the tub on? I suspect concrete. I assume you are getting the shock while standing on the deck..
Let us know the results of this test..
Thanks,
Jim R.
a,
Sometimes concrete decks can have some stray voltage they pick up from the ground... I would not think that would be the case with a Trex deck.
Anyway I would still try the test just to see if the shock is still there without the gnd wire.
Jim R.
Sometimes concrete decks can have some stray voltage they pick up from the ground... I would not think that would be the case with a Trex deck.
Anyway I would still try the test just to see if the shock is still there without the gnd wire.
Jim R.
The tub itself sits on wooden frame made of 4×4's and filled in with crushed concrete and the deck was built around ita,
Sometimes concrete decks can have some stray voltage they pick up from the ground... I would not think that would be the case with a Trex deck.
Anyway I would still try the test just to see if the shock is still there without the gnd wire.
Jim R.
picsa,
Sometimes concrete decks can have some stray voltage they pick up from the ground... I would not think that would be the case with a Trex deck.
Anyway I would still try the test just to see if the shock is still there without the gnd wire.
Jim R.
a,
A very nice set up... I like it!!!
If you are getting shocked without the power to the spa on, then it has to come from somewhere... most likely from the ground and through the deck.. When you touch the water the current has a path through the water and back to the ground in the electrical panel.
I assume you get shocked when in your bare feet... if so, another test would be to touch the water while wearing rubber soled shoes.. and see if it still happens..
Thanks,
Jim R.
A very nice set up... I like it!!!
If you are getting shocked without the power to the spa on, then it has to come from somewhere... most likely from the ground and through the deck.. When you touch the water the current has a path through the water and back to the ground in the electrical panel.
I assume you get shocked when in your bare feet... if so, another test would be to touch the water while wearing rubber soled shoes.. and see if it still happens..
Thanks,
Jim R.
I recommended cable / zip tie or padlocking the cover closed & zero use until you can get a qualified technician and/or electrician to qualify & remedy the failure.
I guess I'll have to call another electrician to get a second opinion first guy wants to replace my whole panel.
Did the electrician state why he wanted to replace your entire panel? If he cannot give you a specific reason then that tells me he does not know why you are getting shocked and is simply replacing the panel in hopes of fixing the problem. Looking at the pictures, the hot tub, deck and therefore I would assume wiring is all new? Is the electrician that wants to replace your panel the same one that wired in the hot tub? If so I would 100% find someone new, someone who can diagnose and show you the specific fault and how they are going to fix it ( I have a feeling it may be an improperly wired/attached ground/neutral). I am not sure where Whitehouse Station is, but do you need wiring permits there for jobs like these? If you do need a permit, and this is new wiring that is shocking you then there is no way it would pass inspection and he must fix it until it is right. He should fix it on his time/dime because it was not done correctly the first time. However, if he was not competent enough to do it correctly the first time who ways he can do it right the second time. Just some things to think about.
Like others above me have said, lock the cover and keep power off until the problem is fixed! (cannot stress that enough)
Like others above me have said, lock the cover and keep power off until the problem is fixed! (cannot stress that enough)
Problem solved, second opinion proved to be faulty ground wiring.
Electrical service ground inside or outside of the equipment pack? Or was it faulty equipment
pack bonding?
Pretty cool you got off easy $$$.
second electrician said the ground was not proper in that disconnect box, re-done it and tested it right in front of me and all zeros on volt meter. Today go out to the tub touch with my finger just out of habit now, and boom shock is back. ***.
Faulty ground didn't sound like a realistic reason for the shock.
You're getting active power to the water.
Is this thing on GFCI?
You're getting active power to the water.
Is this thing on GFCI?
Yes everything is connected correctly GFI is working. This might sound crazy but I think the electric shock is a harsh term to use being that it is really only a static electric pop now with that said I've done research and it says that it could be my new composite decking giving off the static shock. I have touch the water with no shoes on and there is no pop once I put my shoes on and Shuffle across the decking and touch the water I get a static pop so I tried this touching other things on my deck same result
