Pump Losing Prime - Issue found & corrected

peirek

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Jun 21, 2017
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Sachse, TX
My pump has been losing prime overnight for several years (yes I know). I just did not know how to go about finding the problem. After a few months on this site my confidence and skills went up. I finally decided to tackle it today. Thought I would post my actions for others facing similar issues.

I could see a couple 1" bubbles under the cover but they were relatively unchanged and just sort of floated around a bit. However, my clear plastic lid was anything but clear after almost 20 years. I took a headlight cleaning kit to it and it cleaned up pretty darn good. I also cleaned the cover O-ring groove, the O-ring, and wet sanded the top seal of the pump housing. Put a bit of silicone grease on the O-ring and reassembled. Now I could see a million bubbles inside the pump. With the confidence it was not the lid I replaced both pump drain plug O-rings. No change.

Got out the hose and started running the water over the suction side joints. Started at the pump and worked back towards the pool. Finally hit an area that definitely changed the bubble volume. However, there were several joints and valves in this area. I turned the hose down a little to enable me to focus the water on each joint. Starting at the ground and working up through each of the 3 valves I finally found the culprit. Dried the area and put some electrical tape on that joint to confirm. Confirmed!

Now the fun starts as this joint is not going to be easy. I am thinking of attempting the heat gun method of extracting the pipe from the joints. I have used this on smaller pipes with success, but not with 2” pipe. I am open to any and all thoughts.

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Unrelated question. Do they make a cap for the in-line chlorinator tee? I unscrewed the tube but it did not seem like a standard fitting so I put it back in. Since I don't have a check valve between it and my SWG I wanted to ensure no tabs ever went in it again.
 
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Re: Pump Losing Prime - Issue found

P,

Just wanted to say "Good Job" on finding your leak.

Since it is on the suction side you can try to coat the area around the leak with PC glue with the pump running. Sometimes you can get lucky and the glue will be pulled into the leak and then dry. I would use the gray PVC glue which is thicker and made for larger pipes and gaps.

It would be better than replacing all of the valves...

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Re: Pump Losing Prime - Issue found

Jim I can try that. Not familiar with the gray glue but clearly that is what was used.

KA interesting and promising. I'll need to look closely at the tee to ensure is is smooth and clean.

Thanks both for your ideas.
 
Re: Pump Losing Prime - Issue found

I wanted to report back on correction of leak. I took Jim's suggestion with the use of the heavy duty grey cement. With pump running and bubbles obvious in pump basket, I first put primer on the joint and fittings. After it was dry, applied the cement around the joint. Saw a slight decrease in bubbles. I wiped off the fitting, waited 10 minutes and applied it again. Rinse and repeat three times with some improvement. I then shut off the 2 skimmers and shut the main drain off about 1/2 way and the air was really getting pulled in. Reapplied the cement and after a few seconds opened the main drain valve fully. Shut everything off to let the glue dry. Waited 30 minutes and repeated this twice. Was down to just a very few small bubbles. Final fix was to prime joint and fittings once last time and put a layer of cement about 1" wide around the entire joint. No more bubbles!! Now will the last layer of cement hold up over time? I guess I'll find out.

Took a while but much easier and less risky than replacing that joint.
 
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