Pp newbie looking for help

[HermanTX]

Bc of how pipes are configured I can’t run my pump lower to 1500 or even more, it would be necessary rum my pump for 24 hours, or it would be better run the pump for 14 hours, 11 of them to speed 1500 and the left 3 to speed 2750 to push the water around the loop and up the percent of the cell from 30% to 60%.
Which option do you think is better?

I did some calculations using the PoolMath app.
I based it on pool volume of 7,800 gals and using the AquaPure 700 SWCG. If you have a different SWCG then let me know.
If you run for 24 hrs, and set SWCG at 30% it will produce 3.9ppm of FC in 24 hrs
If you run for 14 hrs, you must set SWCG at 70% to get the same 3.9ppm

I targeted 4ppm of loss per day in the summer in North Houston area

Running for a longer pump time with lower output % is better in my opinion

 

[Aramor]

I appreciate a lot your help.
Finally I scheduled my pump 24 hours to 1500 and twice per day for 30 minutes to 2750, to refresh and make circulates spa water.
My Swg is Jandy true clear . I set up my Swg at 30% and my pump working for 24 hours, to generate 5 ppm, that was working perfectly for a week. But last week was raining every single day in my area , and I was testing my fc every night and I had to add some liquid chlorine, no too much, just a little bit to maintain my target fc=7.
But the last days the tendency has been lower. So I up the % of the cell to 40, but next day still no getting target so I did a complete test today and my results say that CYA=50 , I think that’s the reason why my fc was going lower each time, (I am not sure, that’s just what I think). Attached picture of my results, I have a doubt respect to CH and TA. I already balance cya and fc.


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[HermanTX]

With a CYA of 50ppm, the UV (Sun) is burning off your chlorine. A SWCG makes a little Chlorine at a time so if CYA is too low then it allows it to burn off too quickly. The recommended range is 70-80 for CYA with a SWCG.

Also, I see that CSI is not calculating. You need to insert a temperature of the water. If it is not reading on your automation then just use an estimate. It is important to monitor CSI status.

 

[Aramor]

Pool temperature is 90.7 . CSI IS 0.15..
Tonight I just tested , FC went down to 2.5 , I never had Fc as low as that. I tested CYA again and is 60. Yesterday add liquid chlorine and conditioner following pool math instructions. The Swg is working to 40%, even higher Pool Math recommends, and the pump is working 24/7.
What could happen? Why didn’t work?
What CSI is exactly?
I add liquid chlorine rn, should I add more conditioner?

 

[Aramor]

I tested again this morning, like 6:30am, my fc went up to 5.5, so I added chlorine for target=8 and I added conditioner to target =80, (instant conditioner), Swg to 40%.
Tonight I will test again.
I didn’t do anything about CSI
THANK YOU YOU ALL and have a great day

 

[Aramor]

Hello !!!
With this values:
Water temperature 90.7
CSI 0.15
Ta 90
Ch 200
Ph 8
What I have to do? I don’t understand really well the relation among these parameters

 

[ajw22]

Hello !!!
With this values:
Water temperature 90.7
CSI 0.15
Ta 90
Ch 200
Ph 8
What I have to do? I don’t understand really well the relation among these parameters

FC?

 

[Aramor]

I have a problem with FC. I just tested it , and the result is 3.5. My FC always was between 5.5 and 7, but since 4 days ago it is going down, I get up the percent of the cell to 40%, and I am adding Liquid chlorine every night to target =7. Cya was 50 2 days ago and we add conditioner to target =70, we test again but cya didn’t up too much , just until 60, so we added this morning more conditioner until target 80. I just test cuando it is 60, is not going up. I am using instant conditioner, I always use that one and no problem.
Do you have any idea why my cya is not going up?

 

[ajw22]

You say you always use instant (liquid) conditioner and no problem but here you are having problems.

I suggest you give it a few days to see if the CYA you added shows in your testing.

If your CYA is still low I suggest you use dry stabilizer using the sock method. It is more predictable then liquid stabilizer.

What is your pump runtime?

Up your SWG % more. Why are you limiting it to 40%? If you need more daily FC then increase the %. Put your SWG at 90% and see what you get.

 

[Aramor]

My pump is running 24 hours . To generate 5 ppm I need to run my pump 24 hours to 30 %. This was working for 3 weeks, 4 or 5 days ago. Swg generates 5, loss 5 and my target was 7.
Bur the problem start since I can’t get up the cya, so all the chlorine is consume during the day, that what I thought, but maybe I am wrong.
I mixed the instant conditioner with pool water and I poured into the skimmer , is that correct?

 

[ajw22]

I mixed the instant conditioner with pool water and I poured into the skimmer , is that correct?

No, you should not be pouring it into the skimmer.

That can get the conditioner stuck in the filter and it never gets into the pool water.

The liquid conditioner should be poured around the edge of the pool directly in the water and your pump run on a high speed for at least 24 hours to mix it.

I think your conditioner is coating your filter cartridge and not in the pool water.

 

[Aramor]

So, should I clean the pump filters? Or just add the conditioner correctly?

 

[Aramor]

In the mind time, I will add liquid chlorine to target 7 and I will up the % to 70?

 

[ajw22]

So, should I clean the pump filters?

Yes.

Or just add the conditioner correctly?

Yes

 

[ajw22]

In the mind time, I will add liquid chlorine to target 7 and I will up the % to 70?

See how that works.

 

[ajw22]

FYI, there is no chemical that should be added through the skimmer.

 

[Aramor]

Ok, I catch you. I learned the lesson.
We are talking about the four filters inside the pressure pump, right?
For now, I forget about CSI, TA, CH… until clarifying what’s going on with the cya, right?
Thank you so much for helping me, and for your patience.

 

[ajw22]

We are talking about the four filters inside the pressure pump, right?

Pressure pump?

Cartidge(s) inside the filter. Whatever you got.

For now, I forget about CSI, TA, CH… until clarifying what’s going on with the cya, right?

FC, CYA, and pH should be your primary focus.

 

[Aramor]

Hello everybody! I am back, hope you’ll have had a really good summer.
I did a complete test, and FC and CYA are correct, but PH , TA are high and CH low. Attach results below.
With Muriatic acid PH AND TA should go down, right? How long does it take to go down? Several days?
What about the CH and CSI?
Thanks

 

[ajw22]

With Muriatic acid PH AND TA should go down, right? How long does it take to go down? Several days?
What about the CH and CSI?

PH goes down within 30 minutes of adding Muriatic acid.

Test your pH 30 minutes after adding Muriatic Acid to see the results.

With a TA of 150 your pH will rise in a few days and pH will not stay down. PH is a constantly rising moving target.