My husband and I recently bought a pool and apparently got pool stored. We were talked into buying a perma salt system since we didn't know much about pools. We are still in the process of filling the pool up with water. I don't really want the pool to get stained by the copper or to be unsanitary and would rather not use the system. The water is just normal water from the city. Nothing has been put in it yet so we don't have to worry about already having copper in it. Is it possible to just turn the cartridge filter that is installed already and just not turn the perma salt box on? Or would we have to get a different filter system?
Perma Salt
- Thread starter lwillis1990
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Hi, welcome to TFP! If possible you should remove the mineral system from your plumbing. If you post a picture of all the pool equipment, we can tell you what everything is and what should be removed.
Sorry I had trouble figuring out how to add a picture. I looked at the pump yesterday and it seems like they added something around the connections. I tried to take it off but was afraid I'd break it since I was unsure of how it connected in the first place.
That is a great kit, good choice. If it is too hard to remove it just leave it unplugged. I read through some of the sales pitch material and it claims to be chlorine free yet uses dichlor to chlorinate the water.
Get some bleach in there and pick up some stabilizer/CYA put it in a sock and hang it in front of one the return jets. Use pool math to target 5 for FC and 30 for CYA. Here are the recommended chemical levels for your pool. You should be fine to add one gallon of regular 8.25% bleach to the pool every day until the test kit shows up.
Let us know if you have any other questions.
Get some bleach in there and pick up some stabilizer/CYA put it in a sock and hang it in front of one the return jets. Use pool math to target 5 for FC and 30 for CYA. Here are the recommended chemical levels for your pool. You should be fine to add one gallon of regular 8.25% bleach to the pool every day until the test kit shows up.
Let us know if you have any other questions.
Thank you for the information. Luckily I googled the perma salt system before we turned it on so the pump hasn't even been turned on yet. They made the system sound like it was the best thing that exists and we didn't know enough about pools to know it wasn't true. We still have the hose in the pool filling it up. It's about 3/4 full now. It'll be tomorrow before it's full enough to turn the pumps on. As soon as I get off work I will post better pictures and try to get it off. I'm just not sure where it comes apart at.
Unfortunately the picture you tried to post doesn't show up. I will see if our admin can do anything to fix it.
If it has unions on either side of it you should be able to unscrew the unions and remove the perma salt unit. Turn the valves to the closed position on the skimmer and return sides of the plumbing. Unscrew the unions holding the perma salt unit to the plumbing and remove the unit. Hopefully you can attach the pipe to the filter without needing any extra pieces. If you could post a picture closer up that shows just where the perma salt connects to the filter and the return line I would have a better idea how the return line will connect to the filter.
Ok thank you. I'm at work at the moment but I'm going to try to remove it after work. I will post better pictures then. It'll be about 4 hours from now.
CJadamec
TFP Expert
That box is on threaded connections the white stuff is Teflon tape. They weren't nice and didn't use unions they also didn't give you any shut off valves. You will have to unthread the perma salt from the filter and the valve but to do that you will have to pull the two black hoses of the diverter valve so you are going to get wet when you do that. Once the salt thing is out you can get a threaded union and attach the diverter to the filter.
cfherrman
TFP Guide
When you unplug the black hoses hold the ends above the water line, tie them up or have a helper hold them
As Chuck said, they didn't do you any favor in the plumbing of the box (possibly on purpose).
I agree that a threaded PVC union would be nice to put in it's place, since you have hoses, you could just unhook the return hose and screw the valve right on the outlet of the filter where you remove the perma-salt box.
I agree that a threaded PVC union would be nice to put in it's place, since you have hoses, you could just unhook the return hose and screw the valve right on the outlet of the filter where you remove the perma-salt box.
I agree. You will need to plug the skimmer opening or close the valve if there is one on the skimmer line. Remove the hoses from the white valve. It looks like they should be long enough to drape over the side of the pool, but you may need someone to hold them in place and someone to unscrew the perma salt system. I'm assuming all the connections are threaded since there is so much pipe tape on them. If that is true it looks like you should be able to screw the white valve onto the filter fitting.
- Oct 25, 2015
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When you need to clean the filter you'll be glad you followed the recommendation to use a union. Makes cleaning the element a snap. Just be sure to get all the dirt out of the bottom of the filter housing. I do this by spraying the empty housing with a hose and letting it all run out in your case through the open valve. Then make sure there's no grit in the union threads or sealing surface inside the union. Should be easy to seal with hand tightening.
Sure glad to see you got this copper gizmo removed before you started your pool operation! You're gonna love TFP. I've been here almost 2 years with crystal clear pool at a fraction of the cost for my previous pool maintenance company. I rarely need anything other than liquid chlorine and MA plus clean my filter every 3 months or so. My $75 per month pool service was reduced to $10 plus I have the peace of mind knowing exactly what's in the pool. There are experts of all kinds here in case you have a problem and they have nothing to sell so you can be sure you're getting the straight scoop.
Best regards,
Chris
Sure glad to see you got this copper gizmo removed before you started your pool operation! You're gonna love TFP. I've been here almost 2 years with crystal clear pool at a fraction of the cost for my previous pool maintenance company. I rarely need anything other than liquid chlorine and MA plus clean my filter every 3 months or so. My $75 per month pool service was reduced to $10 plus I have the peace of mind knowing exactly what's in the pool. There are experts of all kinds here in case you have a problem and they have nothing to sell so you can be sure you're getting the straight scoop.
Best regards,
Chris
Thank you all for the advice. We were able to take the hoses off and then unscrew the perma salt system from the side of the filter. The thing that splits the water to the two hoses luckily screwed right into the side of the filter. I hope that's the correct way to connect it. If not at least I now know how to take it apart and can add whatever I need to fix it correctly. The filter will work without the perma salt system won't it? They made it sound like the filter was designed for the salt system.
That's a regular cartridge filter. It has nothing to do with the perma-salt system. Of course they want you to think that, so you'll keep using their system.
It'll work fine without the perma-salt.
It'll work fine without the perma-salt.