Pentair Superflo VS 6 pin cable "External Control Wiring Kit (Pentair P/N 353129Z)"

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cznkane

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I'm trying to locate one of these 6 pin automation cables for my pump. Local pool supply places (not the pool store, commercial supply) say they can't get them anymore. Anyone have one they'd be willing to part with? In the manual it is referred to as "External Control Wiring Kit (Pentair P/N 353129Z)"

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I've found some 8 pin ones that people seem to say work but would sure like to know for sure before spending $60 - $80

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Pentair SuperFlo Digital Input Kit (25 Ft.) || 356324Z

Pentair SuperFlo Digital Input Kit (25 Ft.) || 356324Z When paired with either the Digital Input Wiring Kit or RS-485 Automation Wiring Kit, the pump can be externally controlled by digital input signals
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cz,

Do me a favor and go out and count the number of pins that are on the connector.

I 'think' the new cable will work on your pump, but agree it would be nice to know before spending the money.

Thanks

Jim R.
 
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Jimrahbe said:
cz,

Do me a favor and go out and count the number of pins that are on the connector.

I 'think' the new cable will work on your pump, but agree it would be nice to know before spending the money.

Thanks

Jim R.
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Good call!
You're right, it is an 8 pin connector. So then the question becomes, is that current cable (8 pin) going to fit in there and how do I identify the 6 wires out of the 8 that are the ones I need? I'll go study the owners manual wiring diagram a bit.

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Wiring diagram has some colors listed but who knows if they're going to match the ones in the 8pin. Can probably just get out the multimeter and do some testing once it is here...would like to avoid frying my drive if I can lol.
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Pentair Superflo VS Pumps - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com www.troublefreepool.com

The pinout of the 353129Z cable for the pre 11/20/2020 SuperFlo VS pump From the notched edge going clockwise is:
  • Center - Black
  • 1- red
  • 2- empty
  • 3- empty
  • 4- green
  • 5- yellow
  • 6- orange
  • 7- brown
 
ajw22 said:

Pentair Superflo VS Pumps - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com www.troublefreepool.com

The pinout of the 353129Z cable for the pre 11/20/2020 SuperFlo VS pump From the notched edge going clockwise is:
  • Center - Black
  • 1- red
  • 2- empty
  • 3- empty
  • 4- green
  • 5- yellow
  • 6- orange
  • 7- brown
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Thank you! I'll do some reading on the link you posted there, appreciate that. So the question then is...does that pinout match the newer cable (IE: pin 4 is still green) and do the colors then match the new or the old mapping (IE: is green, pin 4 or pin 1 and is it not used or speed 1)?

I guess a pinout for the post 11/20/2020 cable would be useful to cross reference since I now know what the pins are for the pump itself...that would allow me to map the pump pins over to whatever color the new cable has put on those pins. Hope that all makes sense, off to read up at your link.
 
Looks like my answer was right there at the link, thank you for that! Looks like the 8 wire color table is the one to follow.
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One last question: does the black wire in the automation cable need to be grounded in any particular way in order for the drive to produce the +5v output for the signal? I can't see as how that would work, assuming it is likely just a way to ground the automation cable to earth similar to the bare copper lug on the outside of the motor.

I'm not using a traditional automation panel, I'll be setting this up using a wifi connected relay box that I can automate / control using Hubitat.
 
cznkane said:
One last question: does the black wire in the automation cable need to be grounded in any particular way in order for the drive to produce the +5v output for the signal? I can't see as how that would work, assuming it is likely just a way to ground the automation cable to earth similar to the bare copper lug on the outside of the motor.

I'm not using a traditional automation panel, I'll be setting this up using a wifi connected relay box that I can automate / control using Hubitat.
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No, the black wire is not connected to an electrical ground or bonding wire.

Calling it “common ground” is the terminology for the pump electronic controls.
 
ajw22 said:
No, the black wire is not connected to an electrical ground or bonding wire.

Calling it “common ground” is the terminology for the pump electronic controls.
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Got it...so it provides the 'negative' for anything that needs 5v power from the drive supply.
 
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