NorCal New Pool Build ( Tile ? 6/13 )

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There are 2 phases to plumbing, the stubouts and the actual plumbing. The stubouts are done (usually) before the rebar and it is just the plumbing parts that will stick through the gunite. The 2nd is the actual plumbing done by the plumber.
 

smmora

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2 phases for plumbing is what they told me last night
so they just added a little more to the plumbing that was there and finished the rebar yesterday
the plumber is here today

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smmora

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Plumbing done - we had 1 hiccup with a post, but a call to the office fixed it real quick

The workers put a post in the middle of my planter bad post.jpg
Walked out I was like it can't go there, workers were like no we need that

Location after call to the office (they agreed it had to go) - I think I will put a solar light on top, thinking about putting a matching post on other side of shed
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Plumbing is done, pre-gunite inspection Monday
If all goes well gunite will be Tuesday

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smmora

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No pics yet, they haven't started, but there is a gunite truck in front of my house - so excited
They said starting tomorrow water it 4x/ day because of the heat
 
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kimkats

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Make sure to be out there. They might have some questions or good ideas. Of course you will have your camera out there to get pics for us!!
 

smmora

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When you say questions or good ideas, what would they ask about?
I thought they did just are doing the gunite around what's already set-up, except for my stairs
Would this be when I want them to change the depth, my shallow side looked a little small to me
 

smmora

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So for some reason I wanted to double check their plans for my steps ... they were wrong
I had put them kind of oddly but I like the location, it was out of my play area 106116
 

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They have done this many times so might know that this bench is a little small or do you want smooth or pointed edges on the benches and such. These is really no way to predict if they say something or have any ideas.

Did you talk to them about your shallow area? They can make it bigger with the shell.

Put a call to your PB asap about the steps. Make sure to also email or textt him about them so it is in writing. I bet they did them how they always do them without even looking at your plans. They CAN be fixed no matter what your PB might say to save some labor and materials cost to him. Share a pic of what they did so we can know what you are talking about.

Kim:kim:
 

smmora

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Finished gunite - on the steps I caught the error before they did it, they had them in the wrong location - on the plan they had it so the bottom step was right before the bench

The only thing that seems weird to me is the how steep they are, not sure if it just feels that way with no water - from top its
7 1/2"
11"
11"
11"
9"

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kimkats

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11" is a mighty big step to go up. Having the wall there will help a little but I do worry if an older person or someone with a bum leg/hip, etc tries to use them. They can redo them and make them more even. House steps have a 7.5" rise so think about that. Walk up and down what you have and see what you think.

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smmora

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So I hate my steps, only 2 days of walking up and down and I already can't deal with them

They said it costs $1500 to have the gunite truck come back out again, because it was the design that was approved
They also said I approved the shape of the steps before they left, it never occurred to me to check the height, I thought that was a standard thing
 

NorCalX

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I obsessively researched pools for my project and your concern is a fairly common complaint.

For example: Height of steps in pool and spa

Many people are uncomfortable with 12" step height when the pool is empty because 7" to 8" is standard outside a pool (like indoor stairs or patio) and they have to work much harder than normal.

However, you have to remember that when the pool is full of water you weigh less. Walking in the empty pool doesn't give you the proper comparison.

If you have any friends with a pool or access to a community pool you should go visit and do your stair tests with water. It may help put your mind at ease or confirm you need the re-work done.

12" is within standard from what I have read....but it is your custom pool and you can change as needed. People with bad knees or older in age may prefer an easier step height.

Have you considered hand rail type system as well? We are putting boulders next to our stairs so people can have more stability as they enter/exit
 
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NorCalX

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How far down from the top of the gunite do the tiles usually go?
I think it was 6" from top of the bond beam. The waterline is at the 3" mark.

And on top of your bond beam will be the coping...another 2" thick or so.

The first step of a pool is usually in 6" depth of water but 11"-12" stepping down from the top of the coping to the step itself
 
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smmora

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I obsessively researched pools for my project and your concern is a fairly common complaint. Many people are uncomfortable with 12" step height when the pool is empty because 7" to 8" is standard outside a pool (like indoor stairs or patio) and they have to work much harder than normal.

However, you have to remember that when the pool is full of water you weigh less. Walking in the empty pool doesn't give you the proper comparison.

If you have any friends with a pool or access to a community pool you should go visit and do your stair tests with water. It may help put your mind at ease or confirm you need the re-work done.

12" is within standard from what I have read....but it is your custom pool and you can change as needed. People with bad knees or older in age may prefer an easier step height.

Have you considered hand rail type system as well? We are putting boulders next to our stairs so people can have more stability as they enter/exit
I did check with my cousin because I'm always comfortable in his pool - his are 9" and he said he has one spot that is 11" and people always complain about it

The rail was the other option she offered ($800) but it doens't really help reaching the step - I'm short with short legs, so going up is more work ( and I understand it will be easier with water), but I am actually unable to "step" down ( think of a toddler starting to take a step then having to kind of fall to the next step )

I'm just going to have to pay for it, for long term happiness ... I'm only getting older ... it just sucks, would have much rather spent that $$ on something else, but I know better to do now
 
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