New Pool Planning

[PoolSmallzOH]

Hey everyone,
Been reading around the site for a few days and hoping to get some help as we are in the planning stages of adding a pool to our new house. We met with builder today and electrician just waiting on some final pricing. Previously had a 27' above ground pool that I had a great process working using an inline puck chlorinator, pool perfect, and non chlorine shock, always had crystal clear water, good PH, FC and never any algae outbreaks in a pool that was in full sun 80% of the day with solar cover.
Our new house the pool will be in Full sun all day as it will sit facing south and after looking at chlorine prices I began looking at other options and need some advice. The new pool is going to be a 24ft x 54" pool, planning to go all resin as we are in open farm country and get 30+ mph winds often. The pool store we are looking to purchase from is pushing a PermaSalt system and friend has the Power Ionizer system both seem like the FROG system that was attached to previous pool that requires their overpriced chemicals to keep and maintain along with not being safe for everyone. I'm now looking at SWG's as the wife is not a fan of the chlorine smell (partly why hot tub has UV and Ozone systems) and would like some advice as I want to set this up from the get go and not change later as we are planning the build in the spring since it's Ohio and propane heat costs would kill me opening for 2 weeks then draining and closing. According to the builder it should be about 13K gallons of water, based on reading posts it seems the CircuPool is the best option for SWG, I'm very tech focused and have gone down rabbit holes of wifi timers for pumps etc but based on everything I'm finding the best options for setup would be...

Cartridge Filter (had previous issues with sand filter and after back surgery not supposed to lift over 60lbs anymore)
Variable speed or 2 speed pump that can be run on low 24/7 pump
CircuPool RJ30+ (supports up to 40k gallons which is 3x pool size)
*Can a bypass line be plumbed in for when needing to skip the SWG for maintenance, opening etc?

Planning to hardpipe everything in and add unions like I did on previous system so when winter comes I can easily take things apart to store in basement for winter

Is there anything I'm missing here or you would add to make a relatively maintenance free pool? My previous pool required 3 checks per week and wife was able to keep up while I was away for work trips so I'd rather stay away from liquid chlorine as much as possible except the occasional need after having friends/family over, normally it will just be the 2 of us using the pool and 80% of the time she's going to float on a raft!

Appreciate all the advice and help, was not looking to put in a pool but after some prodding to skip a beach vacation next year to do the pool and have more relaxation by my own pool she wore me down!

 

[PoolStored]

Cartridge Filter (had previous issues with sand filter and after back surgery not supposed to lift over 60lbs anymore)

Get the biggest one you can afford.

Variable speed or 2 speed pump that can be run on low 24/7 pump

Get a high head, 2.7-3hp VSP. Hayward VS 950, Pentair Intelliflo VSP (DO NOT GET SVRS), and Waterway Defender 3.0 are some good pumps. You will want 230v for the pump.

CircuPool RJ30+ (supports up to 40k gallons which is 3x pool size)

Great selection.

*Can a bypass line be plumbed in for when needing to skip the SWG for maintenance, opening etc?

Circupool sells a dummy cell. Take the real cell out and put the dummy in, good to go.

Planning to hardpipe everything in and add unions like I did on previous system so when winter comes I can easily take things apart to store in basement for winter

Perfect.


You need to put the pump and SWCG on the same timer so the cell turns off if the pump is off. Or you can install a Current Sensing Relay.
Here is my thread on the CSR install. I use this device, CR4395-EH-120-110-X-CD-ELR-I. It senses current on one of the pump's 220v lines and switches 120V to my SWG. Current trip point is adjustable.

Picture Thread! SWCG add, plumbing cleanup, pump power interconnect! Might help someone...

Started this thread because @IUsedToSail asked about orientation of valves/check valves. Made me realize I didn't do a plumbing thread on my rebuild. Some may know my story, new pool owner last year (came with the house), I was PoolStored...then I found TFP. Pulled out the UV system and the...

www.troublefreepool.com

 

[PoolSmallzOH]

Get the biggest one you can afford.

Get a high head, 2.7-3hp VSP. Hayward VS 950, Pentair Intelliflo VSP (DO NOT GET SVRS), and Waterway Defender 3.0 are some good pumps. You will want 230v for the pump.

Great selection.


Circupool sells a dummy cell. Take the real cell out and put the dummy in, good to go.

Perfect.


You need to put the pump and SWCG on the same timer so the cell turns off if the pump is off. Or you can install a Current Sensing Relay.
Here is my thread on the CSR install. I use this device, CR4395-EH-120-110-X-CD-ELR-I. It senses current on one of the pump's 220v lines and switches 120V to my SWG. Current trip point is adjustable.

Picture Thread! SWCG add, plumbing cleanup, pump power interconnect! Might help someone...

Started this thread because @IUsedToSail asked about orientation of valves/check valves. Made me realize I didn't do a plumbing thread on my rebuild. Some may know my story, new pool owner last year (came with the house), I was PoolStored...then I found TFP. Pulled out the UV system and the...

www.troublefreepool.com

@PoolStored thanks for telling me I’m on the right path at least, I wasn’t planning to put a timer in since the pump would run 24x7 if I went variable but should I have the electrician put one in? I looked at timers for 2 speed pumps but when I added costs and power I think I’m better spending the money on variable speed pump as like you Ohio is crazy weather..previous pool I had a 2 speed with the Hayward microprocessor switch and it only lasted 3 seasons because I think the switching shorted out the motor. I will also be purchasing a robot cleaner, had one previously and it was the best investment, especially because we rarely had to backwash filter.
1 other question is when having to add water our well has decent iron so we use iron out in salt system and our builder screwed up and tied all the outdoor spigots to the softener, I can bypass obviously but will the iron or iron out salt create a problem with the SWG?
Also browsing the circupool site I saw they have a sediment prefilter and might add that being surrounded by farming we get lots of dirt in the air during planting and that might help the filter. What size filter would you recommend, the pool store we are buying from has 2 different ones and planning a trip up tomorrow to finalize what we want to make final purchase decisions.

 

[PoolStored]

Here is the issue. You do not want to rely on the flow switch as the primary disconnect for the SWCG. You want to ensure that if the pump is off, the cell is off. Flow switches are notorious for failing. In your situation, running 24x7 like me, I'd recommend the current sensing relay. Works great with the Circupool.
A softener does not add salt to the pool. Softener removes CH. No issues.
Prefilters are a toss up. It is likely unnecessary, but some with large amounts of leaves and dirt like them.
As far as the filter, get the largest one you can afford. You will thank me later.

 

[PoolSmallzOH]

Sounds good I’ll try to look into the relay and probably have to have electrician add the 120 breaker..any other timers you would recommend?
Also being a 13k pool do you think I need a 3hp pump? I see circupool has a variable pump that is 1.7 THP, my previous pool had a 1.5 hp 2 speed pump and it was a larger pools.