Congratulations on the buy. You will love the pump. I took susa'a advice above and got a 1/8" thick neoprene sheet and set the pump on top of it. It is so quiet, I could hear my DVR's hard drive Y'day night but not the pump. 
New Intelliflo VS pump.
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Hey guy's, how much retrofitting needs to be done if any to set these new pumps with a aqua-logic system. I already have whisperflo pumps now (ss) can I use the same relays and wiring? And will a P4 board and a Aqua-logic control the pump? I don't have a remote or a spa.
The main thing is that the AquaLogic doesn't know how to change speeds on the IntelliFlo. You can solve that by getting an IntelliComm II Interface Adapter. This will allow you to setup a relay for each speed you want on the pump. That works, but requires at least two relays dedicated to the pump (including the regular pump relay).
Finally got around to installing the new pump today. Everything went pretty well. I love it. I'm going to be running the 1500 RPM setting probably around 12 hours a day or so. It's pulling 230 watts at 1500RPM and it very quiet. I'm excited to start saving some money. Thanks for all the help and advice.
Installed mine today as well, got a few schedules programmed so we'll see how it goes tomorrow.
Mine came with the interface cable to connect to Intellitouch/Suntouch/etc. I didn't know it would be included.
Mine came with the interface cable to connect to Intellitouch/Suntouch/etc. I didn't know it would be included.
Here are some numbers which may be of interest, of course, keep in mind that every pool setup is different, but anyways:
750 RPM - 104 Watts - 2 PSI of system pressure (as measured at the relief valve on top of my FNS Plus DE filter)
1,250 RPM - 180 Watts - 5 PSI (I run most of the day at this setting)
2,350 RPM - 880 Watts - 13 PSI
3,350 RPM - 2,355 Watts - 25 PSI (I run 3 hrs per day at this speed to run the MX8 suction side cleaner)
750 RPM - 104 Watts - 2 PSI of system pressure (as measured at the relief valve on top of my FNS Plus DE filter)
1,250 RPM - 180 Watts - 5 PSI (I run most of the day at this setting)
2,350 RPM - 880 Watts - 13 PSI
3,350 RPM - 2,355 Watts - 25 PSI (I run 3 hrs per day at this speed to run the MX8 suction side cleaner)
spillmar said:
if an Easy Touch is used for automation, is there a difference between the VS3050 ( pentair 011013) and the new VS (pentair 011018) ?
is pump speed set on the easy touch? or is pump speed set on the pump and the easy touch just selects speed 1, speed 2, speed 3 etc?
The new VS AU and the older VS 3050 are completely identical when used with any Pentair branded automation system (SunTouch, EasyTouch, IntelliTouch). The controls on the pump are not used and the automation system runs everything. The pump speeds and run times set on the automation system.
my contract called for the 4 speed vs3050, but my equipment was delivered today and the 8 speed was delivered. 2 questions:
1. since this one has a built in timer is the ole intermatic timer still needed? they delivered the timer as well.
2. is this newer model any more effficient than the 4 speed vs3050?
thanks
1. since this one has a built in timer is the ole intermatic timer still needed? they delivered the timer as well.
2. is this newer model any more effficient than the 4 speed vs3050?
thanks
Everything mechanical/efficiency related is identical. The only difference is the fancier control system on the new model.
If you have a simple setup with just the pump/filter then the timer on the pump is great. But if there are other things in your system the pump needs to coordinate with it is sometimes simpler to use an external timer. The timer on the pump can't control anything except the pump.
If you have a simple setup with just the pump/filter then the timer on the pump is great. But if there are other things in your system the pump needs to coordinate with it is sometimes simpler to use an external timer. The timer on the pump can't control anything except the pump.
Susa and Sukhbir,
I am interested in trying these antivibration pads. I went to the grainger website but there are over a dozen to choose from. What type would you suggest? The smaller but thicker (4 x 4 inch corner pads) or the larger (18 x 18in) thinner waffle pad?
I am interested in trying these antivibration pads. I went to the grainger website but there are over a dozen to choose from. What type would you suggest? The smaller but thicker (4 x 4 inch corner pads) or the larger (18 x 18in) thinner waffle pad?
From my next door neighbor who I introduced this pump to. He installed it about 3 weeks ago and was running it at 450 rpm for 6 or so hrs per day and then at 1400 for 2'hrs....
Well,
I think my new pump is toast.
For the last several days it has been tripping the GFCI as soon as you turn it on so....
I went out today and bought two new breakers.
First I installed a new breaker in the panel in the pool shed. I figured start there and work my way back to the main panel.
Once installed I turned on the power and voila the pump started up. After about 5 seconds it tripped the GFCI again and I noticed a warning light on the pump which can mean: "over current" or "over voltage". Then the whole display went out. This didn't alarm me because everytime the GFCI trips the entire display goes out.
So I went to the main panel removed the GFCI and installed a regular double pole breaker. Returned to the pool shed, powered on the breaker for the light switch first, ah good working, then tried the breaker for the pump, hmm nothing. Tried the breaker for the heater, ah good working. So why is the pump not working.
Then I took out my handy volt meter, hmm I've got 240 (well 244, if you trust my volt meter) at the new breaker. So I checks it at the pump. Hmm same thing there. Power to the pump but the display is dead.
It's still under warranty but this is a royal pain in the butt.
From what I'm reading on the internet you can't replace any of the electronic control parts, you have to get a whole new pump.
I don't know if you ordered one of these or not but you might want to reconsider.
On the positive side my electric bills are going to be really low now.
Well,
I think my new pump is toast.
For the last several days it has been tripping the GFCI as soon as you turn it on so....
I went out today and bought two new breakers.
First I installed a new breaker in the panel in the pool shed. I figured start there and work my way back to the main panel.
Once installed I turned on the power and voila the pump started up. After about 5 seconds it tripped the GFCI again and I noticed a warning light on the pump which can mean: "over current" or "over voltage". Then the whole display went out. This didn't alarm me because everytime the GFCI trips the entire display goes out.
So I went to the main panel removed the GFCI and installed a regular double pole breaker. Returned to the pool shed, powered on the breaker for the light switch first, ah good working, then tried the breaker for the pump, hmm nothing. Tried the breaker for the heater, ah good working. So why is the pump not working.
Then I took out my handy volt meter, hmm I've got 240 (well 244, if you trust my volt meter) at the new breaker. So I checks it at the pump. Hmm same thing there. Power to the pump but the display is dead.
It's still under warranty but this is a royal pain in the butt.
From what I'm reading on the internet you can't replace any of the electronic control parts, you have to get a whole new pump.
I don't know if you ordered one of these or not but you might want to reconsider.
On the positive side my electric bills are going to be really low now.
armstrr, that should be covered under warranty. The controller can be replaced separately, but repair parts are in short supply, so they usually take an entire pump from sales stock to save time.
JasonLion said:
unfortunately it was an internet purchase, so he will likely experience down time and shipping expenses...
so if u buy one of these off of the internet are they covered by the pentair warranty?
Most Internet purchases are covered. Sometimes they check to make sure you purchased from an authorized dealer, which many, but not all, of the Internet stores are.
Update: long story short, neighbor had his swg on the same gfi circuit breaker and between it and the control module on the pump was causing the breaker to trip out at least once a day.
Pentair tech support mentioned not to have anything else on the circuit. The neighbors' electrician said it should be fine that way ( his old single speed pump ran this way for last 2 years this way without issue.
So heads up everyone. Even if your local code will allow more than just the pump on a gfi circuit.... Don't do it.
The neighbor's pump has run fine for 2 days.
Pentair tech support mentioned not to have anything else on the circuit. The neighbors' electrician said it should be fine that way ( his old single speed pump ran this way for last 2 years this way without issue.
So heads up everyone. Even if your local code will allow more than just the pump on a gfi circuit.... Don't do it.
The neighbor's pump has run fine for 2 days.